Talk:Obadiah Short/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 21:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Giving this one a look. —Ed!^(talk) 21:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria) (see here for this contributor's history of GA reviews)

1. It is reasonably well written:

   External links, dup links and dab links look good. Copyvio detector returns red; I've taken a look at the comparisons and I believe it's picking up the three large blockquotes, one included in the main article and the two others as notes in the bottom. But I note they're all clearly indicated as exact quotes.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:

   Source Spotcheck: Ref 10, 15 and 16 all properly back up what's cited in the article.

   • Ref needed: "His book recollects his memories of his parents and of what he was told about their fate."

   Reference in the paragraph should have been put at the end, moved accordingly. Amitchell125 17:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Refs 7, 13, 18, 23, 25, 26 and 50 are resolving Harv errors right now.

   Sorted. Amitchell125 15:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage:

   Not Yet

   • "It was a unique phenomenon in the history of 19th-century British art" -- What is this referring to, the group of artists? The art? The school itself? I assume in this case it's referring to the school but wording is a bit ambiguous.

   Amended to reflect that I was referring to the School. Amitchell125 20:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Also, might be good to indicate what kind of arrangement for artists was more typical of the time since this situation was singled out as unique.

   Done. Amitchell125 22:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "He gave an invaluable eyewitness account of events that occurred in Norwich during his childhood, unrecorded by anyone else during this time." -- What events specifically? Or is it just referencing everyday life?

   Text expanded accordingly. Amitchell125 16:15, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Would be good to explain what a "substitute soldier" is. Just the term for a militiaman or some other term?

   Extra added (with a reference) to explain about substitution in the British Army. Amitchell125 16:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • The last line of "Family life" can be added into the first graph, I would think. In any case would be best to remove the single-sentence graph.

   Single sentence paragraph moved up, section edited to help it 'fit in'. Amitchell125 11:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Changed the first graph in "Artistic Career" a bit so the wording flows a bit more.
   • "Short was commissioned to draw birds and pathological subjects at Norwich Castle." -- When?

   1832. Section amended to include date and sponsor of the drawings. Amitchell125 19:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • I suggest the "Gallery" section just be included at the bottom of the "Reputation and legacy" section, a header isn't needed.

   Done as suggested. Amitchell125 09:20, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Death should probably be moved to the bottom.

   Sorted. Amitchell125 09:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • I'm surprised there are few details about the paintings that made him notable. What was his specific artistic style? How many paintings did he produce? What did he tend to paint? What were his most acclaimed works? Can be added into the "Reception and Legacy" section. Also worth asking, what specific things about Norwich life did he highlight that weren't available in other sources? There's cursory mention of some architecture that hasn't been recorded otherwise, but what else did his paintings reveal about the time?

   None of his paintings are acclaimed, although a few have sold at auction for over $1000. More to follow. Amitchell125 20:07, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Are any of his paintings on display today? If so, where?

   I have added a sentence to state that Short's works in public collections can only be found at Norwich. Amitchell125 09:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:

   Pass No seeing problems there.

5. It is stable:

   Pass No problems there.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:

   Pass Paintings and photos tagged PD and CC as appropriate.

7. Other:

   On Hold Pending a few suggested additions. —Ed!^(talk) 22:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Drive-by comments on references: Just a brief note that reference 3 is broken (did you mean Day 1979, or a different work by Day that's not in the bibliography); it's unclear why ref 14 has a different convention for citing Recollections (and a different name, Childhood Recollections) than ref 17; including page numbers for Recollections would be nice, if possible; and Blyth 1842 and Crosse 1835 are included in the bibliography but never cited to. Cheers, --Usernameunique (talk) 00:06, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

- reference 3 fixed, Day references all relate to the same edition of Day's book. Amitchell125 07:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

- reference 14 sorted. Amitchell125 07:30, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

- page numbers for Recollections do not exist for either the original document or the transcription. Each paragraph of the transcription represents a new page of Short's small book. Amitchell125 07:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

- Bibliography sources - I am confused by this. Blyth 1842 is cited in ref 23, and Crosse's book is cited in ref 52 (where the plates are). Amitchell125 07:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

- Got it. I have a script installed (the one I previously pointed you too) that points out certain citation errors. In this case, despite Blyth and Crosse having "ref = harv" in the bibliography parameters, refs 23 and 52 do not use sfn formatting. The script thus places an error on the page stating "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFCrosse1835." Anyways, I've properly formatted these now, and all else looks good. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 16:51, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah, this is fantastic work! Very extensive changes. Thank for your efforts on this one, going to Pass for GA now. —Ed!^(talk) 04:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

- Thanks, Ed! Your comments are appreciated. Amitchell125 05:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)