Talk:Ones (album)/GA2

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Reviewer: Ritchie333 (talk · contribs) 12:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This review seems to have been abandoned again and again, which is a shame. As I've done a lot of album GAs (from both sides of the review), I'm happy to pick this up. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:42, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for picking this article, can't wait for your review. Best, .jona ^talk 18:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

At 8K of prose, the lead may be a little bit too long, but I'm not sure what could be cut out just yet. Maybe some of the awards could be whittled down to just summarise the album's strong commercial success.

I took off the awards from the lead. .jona ^talk 00:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Background and release

"building on the popularity of the 1997 biographical film" - I'd probably just say "building on the film's popularity"

Done

I'm a little confused - was the album released separately in addition to featuring on the nine-disc set?

Done (it was released separately)

Might be just worth qualifying Selena y los Dinos as "her former band" as it wasn't obvious until I clicked on the link

Done

I think it would help (if the information is available) to mention how the track listing was organised and who decided what went on this album

There are no such sources that provide that information. However, I do know that her family has no rights on her recordings (1989 and onward) but there's no sources that provide that information since its not bothering the family much. Best, .jona ^talk 00:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

More later. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right, picking up from where I left off....

Songs

"to tour in Torres' country and throughout Latin America" - Latin America could be wiklinked, also does "at 60" in the source mean "at 60 seconds in" or "60:00 minutes in"?

That's a template issue, the episode runs 60 minutes.

""Como La Flor", Selena's signature song" - I think "signature song" is a bit weaselly, how about "most commercially successful" (or something similar) song?

Well it isn't her most commercially successful single (ever), it was elevated by media as being her best single in her career, despite Billboard saying that it never reached the top 5 on its Latin charts. It is considered by most critics as her signature song because it "opened" the door for her to tour in Mexico and gained more exposure as an artist.

"The song was acclaimed" - since we've got the sources that say who acclaimed them, we might as well say specifically who did the acclaiming

Done

"her cumbia signature songs" - I can't find this quotation in the Boston Globe Archives source given

It a subscription article that I found when I was searching for sources for that song and at the time (before Google removed all archive news articles) there were short texts/quotes that were readable. I can add (subscription required) to the source.

Do you mean that the quotation can be found in the full subscription-required article? If so, then this will be verifiable with that tag added. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:56, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I added the tag.

"Following Selena's death in 1995, the song ["No Me Queda Mas"] spent another eleven weeks in the top ten" - I can see the original seven weeks in the Billboard source but not the extra 11 weeks

I removed it

"Her posthumous number-one single "Fotos y Recuerdos" spent seven consecutive weeks atop the Hot Latin Tracks chart" - there is a Hot Latin chart in the Billboard chart supplied, but Selena isn't listed at number one

The article talks about how Marco Antonio Solis Y Los Bukis replaced "Fotos y Recuerdos" from the top spot which spent seven consecutive weeks atop the chart before the group knocked her off it.

Ah yes. Found it, now. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:56, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reception and chart performance

"It debuted (and peaked) at number four on the US Billboard Top Latin Albums and Latin Pop Albums chart, achieving a Hot Shot Debut" - there is a Billboard source giving most of this, but not one that says that number 4 was its peaked position (although in the pre-download era, it doesn't seem too unlikely that it's true)

I don't see why I can't use a Billboard source for it. I see what you're saying and this source will work for you, but I still prefer the magazine over their unstable website source.

No, I think you've misunderstood. There's nothing wrong with citing Billboard online at all (provided you, as you have done, include information to find the "dead trees" era), except this doesn't have a small fact required to cite the entire sentence. I meant "pre-download" in the context of music albums, which went through a phase of debuting at #1 and then declining, whereas downloads have changed typical chart patterns. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well the source does confirm that it debuted at number four. Best, .jona ^talk 20:09, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, that's what the funny squiggle means ;-) Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:18, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"It placed number 62 the week of April 1, reaching sales of 400,000 copies" - the source for this seems to be dead

I'll remove it, Google removed all archived news articles and I won't be able to locate this source.

Summary

I've read through the whole article. The prose and layout is very good, my main niggle is just making sure all the facts (mostly chart positions and sales figures) are all totally correct. I'll put the review on hold. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have Fixed everything (except one) that you brought up. Best, .jona ^talk 18:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think everything's in order, so I can pass the review. Well done. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:18, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review! Best, .jona ^talk 20:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]