Talk:Operation Julin

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The table on this page and the contents of any nuclear tests infobox are generated from a database of nuclear testing which I have maintained and researched for a number of years. The table is automatically generated from that database by a Visual Basic script, and then has, periodically, been inserted into the page manually. I began doing this in October of 2013.

Recently a user complained (politely) to me about the practice. It seems to him that it removes control from all editors besides myself over the content. He believes it is tantamount to WP:OWNED of the pages affected. He also points out that there is no public mention of the fact anywhere on wikipedia, and that is true, through my own oversight, until now.

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SkoreKeep (talk) 06:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Icecap, Gabbs and Greenwater

Kylesenior has added a section discussing these three canceled shots. Good information, though he lists them as being in Areas 9, 2 and 19, respectively. The information I have is that they are located as follows:

Icecap - area 7, 37.0808,-116.04357 - Google Earth shows the tower at this location, the prepared cable runs relatively undisturbed, some instrument trailers and foundations still in place, all from before 2003.

Gabbs - area 2, 37.1379,-116.0737 - tower and buildings in place, some prepared cable runs, a few instrument trailer foundations in place, between 1985 and 1998.

Greenwater - area 20, 37.2307,-116.4475 - tower in place, some concrete pads, between 1985 and 1998.

SkoreKeep (talk) 03:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

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5 kt? DOE/NV states "less than 20 kt". Regards 17387349L8764 (talk) 17:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)