Talk:Pathways into Darkness/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cptnono (talk) 04:32, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Nice work. I am under the impression that GA was made exactly for articles like this. There is only so much info available and it looks to be included. A few notes that should be addressed before passing:

• Images

• These appear to be good and have FURs.
• The image in Gameplay sandwiches the text between it and the infobox. It should be moved to the second paragraph.

• Plot

• "In the pyramid, the player finds bodies of their squadmates, as well as members of a Nazi expedition from the 1930s who were looking for a secret weapon, but never returned." Should this be in the first paragraph instead of being alone?
• "The best endings are achieved by..." Should this be "the most favorable" or does it mean the more cinematic?
• This is the section I would consider expanding with another full paragraph if going for FA. Gameplay could also be expanded with types of weapons and monsters. Over expansion of either section could lead to WP:NOT. The current info provided is good for a GA.

• Development

• "Pathways was Bungie's third title,[1] after their previous game, Minotaur: The Labrynths of Crete, sold around 2,500 copies. In the summer of 1992, Jones was living in dorms at the University of Chicago when he saw Wolfenstein 3D, a shooter game with three-dimensional graphics." This sentence should be split in two.
• "...reducing Jones' workload and in the programmer's opinion improving the art." This seems off to me. Maybe a comma or some other tweaking.
• "Jones put in eighteen-hour days for the month leading up to the MacWorld Expo where the game was to be sold." Does the source say if he was successful?

• References

• p. instead of pp. for 2, 3, and 4 (done)
• 13 is not in ISO format like the others

• Other

• Looks underlinked to me. Try to add some. Plot and system requirements might be good places to add a few.
• Media permissions, dablinks, and dead links all check out.

• It is almost an orphan. Can any other pages link here?

Cptnono (talk) 04:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• • I believe I've addressed most of your concerns. I've added a handful more links, added a tad to the end of development to clarify the game's release, and made some other tweaks. About the image: it's going to sandwhich text no matter where it goes, unfortunately, because of how short the gameplay section is. As for your comment about "Pathways was Bungie's third title...", what did you think should be split in two? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 16:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Disregard the splitting of the line. I realized it was already two but missed the full stop used. D'oh and apologies.

I viewed the article on a couple machines w/ different browsers and settings. Moving it down was only better on one while worse on another. Forget that too then. Sandwiching is better than not having it here.

Excellent work. Your recent additions were great. This meets GA requirements.Cptnono (talk) 13:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)