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Missing information on declining acceptance rates and criticism[edit]

The first reference, while admittedly decades old, is about criticism and an apparent decline of this society. Yet this topic is never mentioned again and neither is any other criticism. Almost all references are historical or the society’s webpage. As an outsider, I would not consider this article a trustworthy resource of information. Ironically, the reference in question is supposed to underline the society’s importance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.135.107.246 (talk) 07:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel qualified to put this in the article, since I am not currently working as a historian, but I declined 2 separate invitations to join Phi Beta Kappa.

For starters, I just don't believe in exclusive, Greek societies. My undergrad didn't have them, and I believe that, if you need to be part of a club that either sets you apart or needs to remind you to be charitable, you probably need psychiatric help, not Greek letters. Secondly, they require you to pay annual dues, or you're out - so, all this talk of it being about "love of learning" or wisdom is just talk; if you don't pay up, you don't belong. Lastly, if you can't keep your grades up to the level that gets you into Phi Beta Kappa when you're in graduate school, you're asked to leave your program anyhow - i.e., anyone who earns a liberal arts graduate degree anymore is eligible for inclusion, which doesn't sound very special to me. I understand that is still a small percentage of the overall population, but seriously, how can *all* those people be worthy of being in an honors society? For all those reasons, despite having GPAs in both of my graduate school programs that qualified me for inclusion, and being invited both times, I declined, and I'll never be sorry. Kelelain (talk) 23:27, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]