Talk:Redirect service

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Another purpose for some redirection services is to prevent the referer information from the original web site to carry over to the end destination. When redirection services are geared towards this goal, they utilize client-side functionality such as the meta refresh tag, rather than a direct rewrite of the URL in the header. This is because the former implies to the browser that it should update its referer information, while the latter does not.

This doesn't make any sense. If a refresh meta tag can be used to redirect a browser without passing on referer information, then it can be used instead of a redirect service. I am also unaware of any internet standards dictating that browsers should omit referer request headers when following refresh meta tags, so this looks like original research to me. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 12:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response: - Feel free to test the "original research", most if not all of the popular browsers are freeware and a quick download. Simply make or find a page that displays the client's referrer information and then access it with a link like so: http://anonym.to/?http://url/ or http://anonymity.com/http://url/ to see what happens to the referrer information. Regarding your statement that a referrer hiding service can be used as an alternate redirect service, I don't understand how on earth that is relevant. The meta refresh, by its very client-side nature imposes a delay and/or may not be recognized (in such cases the client must click the link on the interstitial page manually, still hiding his referrer but it is inconvenient), and is therefore less than ideal for a redirection service whose purpose do not require the hiding of the referrer information. -- Unregistered user (I don't intend to register, just wanted to expand on a page with poor information) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.49.115.200 (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additional response: I rewrote the passage in question so that even the very new may understand it. "This is because the former implies to the web browser that it should update its referer information due to the fact that it has been served with an intermediary web page.". -- Unregistered user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.49.115.200 (talk) 20:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know how to access Referer headers, but I'm unaware of any RFCs or other internet specifications that dictate what sort of Referer information should be provided when a client follows a meta redirect. Have you tried this in every browser? I suspect not. Sorry, but I'm going to stand by my opinion that it's original research and doesn't belong here. Unless you can find a reliable source to support your case, that is. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 21:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If Wiki admins don't want vandalism they'll have to come clean this up themselves, I'm not fixing this article up again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.49.179.174 (talk) 22:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]