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2nd and 3rd
  • 5, early-present
  • 25, early-1930
  • 28, ?-1928
  • Tioga (4), early
4th and 5th
  • 9, by 1923-1956
  • 50, by 1923-1955?
  • 65, by 1923-1929?
  • 57, 1955-present (now on 3rd and 4th)
4th and 8th (early)
  • Norris & Susquehanna
  • Indiana
  • Chestnut Hill (23)
  • Pelham
  • Willow Grove
5th and 6th (early)
  • Fox Chase (50)
  • Franklinville
  • Frankford-Berks (3)
  • Frankford-Lehigh
6th and 7th
  • 4, by 1923-1930
  • 19, by 1923-1929
  • 26, ?-1922
  • 65, 1929?-1953
7th and 9th (early)
  • Richmond
  • McKean (9)
  • Cambria
8th and 9th
  • 47, by 1923-present (now on 7th and 8th; 47m on 8th and 9th)
  • 51, by 1923-1929
  • 61, by 1923-present (now on 7th and 11th)
10th and 11th
  • 6, ?-1920
  • 23, by 1923-present (now on 11th and 12th)
  • 55, by 1923-by 1932
  • Berks & Montgomery (3), early
  • 10th & 11th (not continuing north), early
12th and 13th
  • 3, by 1923-1929
  • 20, by 1923-1957
  • 27, ?-1922
  • 53, by 1923-1929
12th and 16th (early)
  • 12th & 16th
13th and 15th (early)
  • 13th & 15th (20)
  • Cumberland
  • Wayne (53)
  • Willow Grove
15th and 16th
  • 2, by 1923-present (now on 16th and 17th)
  • 24, by 1923-1929
  • 48, by 1923-1956?
17th and 18th
  • 21, by 1923-1956
  • 32, by 1923-1957
  • initially both combined into one
19th and 20th
  • 16, by 1923-1929
  • 17, by 1923-present
  • 18, by 1932-1953
  • 33, by 1923-present
  • 36, by 1923-by 1932
  • originally 16 or 33 and 17 combined into one
22nd and 23rd
  • 7, by 1923-present (now on 21st and 22nd north of Market)
  • 9, by 1923-1956
  • 12, by 1923-present
  • 18, by 1923-1953
  • 36, by 1932-1950s? (moved to subway)
  • 40, by 1923-by 1932 (how?)
  • 44, by 1923-1929
  • 48, 1956?-present (now on 21st and 22nd)
  • Morris & Tasker, early

South Philly only

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2/3 (ETCo)
  • Frankford 2 & 3 (71): post-1911 Route 5
4/8 (PPRy)
  • Dickinson (41)
  • Indiana (53): post-1911 Route 19 (6/7)
  • Chestnut Hill (58)
  • post-1911 Route 9 (4/5)
5/6 (ETCo)
  • Richmond 7 & 9 (4) southbound: didn't even enter downtown until 1905; post-1911 Route 25 (2/3)
  • Fox Chase (54): didn't even enter downtown until 1900; post-1911 Route 50 (4/5)
  • Frankford Berks 5 & 6 (72)
  • Frankford Lehigh 5 & 6 (73)
  • post-1911 Route 4 (6/7)
7/9 (PTCo)
  • Richmond 7 & 9 (4) northbound: didn't even enter downtown until 1905; post-1911 Route 25 (2/3)
  • McKean 7 & 9 (35)
  • post-1911 Route 47 (8/9)
10/11 (ETCo)
  • 10 & 11 (32): post-1911 Route 23
12/16 (ETCo/PTCo)
  • 12 & 16 (1)
13/15 (PTCo)
  • Cumberland (47): turned around at Locust until 1909; post-1911 Route 2 (15/16)
  • 13 & 15 (48): post-1911 Route 20 (12/13)
  • Wayne Ave (49): turned around at Locust until 1904; post-1911 Route 53 (12/13)
17/18 (PTCo)
  • 17 & 18 (3): post-1911 Route 32
19/20 (PTCo)
  • 19 & 20 (2): post-1911 Route 17
22/23 (PTCo)
  • Morris & Tasker (39): post-1911 Route 7
  • New post-1911 Route 18