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what is this article talking about anyway...

no definition, no sources, no bla bla...

Secondhand sources[edit]

A source which comments that someone else said something is secondhand information, and can only be used as a source by the commenter. TEDickey (talk) 10:36, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

credited (sic)[edit]

For that sort of statement you need a better source than Gosling saying that he had an early example. Published work is what counts. The actual link in the article by the way also points to a different usenet posting than the one listed in the references. TEDickey (talk) 23:39, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Agree it's not perfect. Have fixed the mixup of the URL at least. Snori (talk) 00:38, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Looks like a posting to net.sources newsgroup [1] on Oct 1982 is the first *published* but it would nice to have a direct link to an archived copy that we could use as a ref. A pity that we lost DejaNews.Snori (talk) 01:47, 27 March 2017 (UTC)


A single comment in a summary section of a single source doesn't support the term generally credited. TEDickey (talk) 12:11, 24 March 2018 (UTC)