Talk:Supreme Central Junta

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Article name[edit]

Is it needed to add "(Spain)" to the name? Is there any other "Supreme Central and Governing Junta of the Kingdom", whose name may be confused with this one? If there are no naming conflicts, then there's no need to disambiguate MBelgrano (talk) 01:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There were many juntas that called themselves either "supreme" or "central" or both, and I don't think that it is obvious to the uninitiated reader that the SCGJK was in Spain. But you're right, per standard title practice there is no need for the disambiguation in this case. Feel free to move.TriniMuñoz (talk) 11:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To make it obvious where was this Junta located, the lead is the place to do it. This long name is specific of this Junta and no other, but it's right, it is also known by shorter names that may be used by other Juntas as well. In this case, those "common names" should be used as disambiguatons, to lead the reader into all possible Juntas MBelgrano (talk) 13:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

Isn't there any portrait about the Junta? I haven't found any at Commons, but it's a main topic about Spanish resistance against Napoleon. Surely there have been artists interested in it as to paint it, and this article may be benefited from having a lead image MBelgrano (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's an interesting point. I've been studying this for a few years and never seen one in a book. It is strange, but I suspect it has to do with the fact that the subsequent Cortes was more successful in writing a constitution and pushing the French out. There are the two paintings depicting the oath to the Constitution and the publication of the Constitution (one 19th-century and the other early 20th, I believe; I'm working from memory) which are used on book covers and I think are here on the Commons. But even then, this liberal moment is not successful in the long run as it is overshadowed by Ferdinand VII's traditionalisim, subsequent liberal movements in the 19th century (see the 1837 Constitution), the Carlist Wars, etc. and of course the Republic in the last century. Jump around this site, for example, http://www.lapepahoy.es and you'll see no depictions that I could find, although there are lots of images from the period.TriniMuñoz (talk) 21:57, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]