Talk:The purpose of a system is what it does

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This article was nominated for deletion on 31 July 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

Justification

POSIWID is a term very widely used by system theorists, many of whom recount stories of its use by Stafford Beer. It needs a Wikipedia article. I have found a recent academic book to reference which in turn references Stafford Beer directly. The tone of the article relates directly to the way that the term is typically used, not to my own views — Preceding unsigned comment added by AidanWard (talk • contribs) 15:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Political Usage

Hi folks, just putting a note here that I think this article should be expanded in regard to the political usage of POSIWID.

I've seen it used in this sort of example: A state claims to be committing violence for the purpose of getting rid of terrorists, but ends up killing mostly civilians. POSIWID can be applied to highlight that no matter what the state claims the intention behind the violence is, because it is Doing violence against civilians that is what it's Purpose is.

I'm not sure if I explained it here perfectly, but as this is a common usage of POSIWID I think it's worth expanding on. Just putting a note here both as a reminder to myself to research and expand on this, and for anyone else who sees this and would like to expand it. Oxb wL4k3 (talk) 10:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]