Talk:Tornadoes of 2024/Archive 5

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Tornado outbreak sequence of May 19–27, 2024 has been nominated for deletion.

The Tornado outbreak sequence of May 19–27, 2024, a subpage (child-page) of this article has been nominated for deletion. You can participate in the deletion discussion here. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Not anymore it isn’t. They closed as keep. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 20:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

June 25-27 section

Closing discussion per precedent that I set. The person who originally suggested this changed is a suspected sockpuppet of Lokicat3345 and has been blocked indefinitely. If you want to reply to me, do so on my user talk page. Otherwise, if there is a legitimate reason to pursue this change, we can start a new discussion West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 20:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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The section needs more sources and information added to it. Unbannable user (talk) 14:12, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Let me guess. Another Lokicat sock puppet? West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 20:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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Draft created for Hurricane Beryl tornado outbreak

I don't normally do this but given that Hurricane Beryl has been a prolific tornado producer, I made a tornado outbreak draft article for it. You can find it here. ChessEric 21:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

This article has now been to mainspace. ChessEric 09:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

July 15-16

I've created a draft for the Tornado outbreak of July 15 specifically as it appears to be notable for the derecho that killed 1 and the widespread scope of 75-100mph winds. If injuries or deaths are confirmed from individual tornadoes in this, it should be added per the Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather/Tornadoes of YYYY criteria. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

2 injuries have been confirmed by the NWS Chicago from the Minooka - Joliet tornado. Tweet here. 216.80.62.221 (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

This article should be renamed US and European Tornafos of 2024. Canada and Australia at least have had tornados too. I came here to get the list, and there isn't even a section for those countries, or even a stub.

see above 70.51.112.82 (talk) 02:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

The reasoning for this is because a tornado event has to have a notability factor (e.g. fatalities, high-rating, etc.) and many that happen in places like Australia, Canada and Europe don't meet these criteria. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 02:26, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

I checked and so far there has only been one tornado in the entirety of Australia, an EF1. Hardly worth actually mentioning. This information is easily available if you just go to the search bar and type List of Australia tornadoes. Canada's information seems to be more patchy but tornado damage data should be readily available

This is a very general article of an event that happens nearly 2000 times a year globally and we cant document every single random rope that touches the ground for 5 metres, so we focus on major and notable events DukeDragon28 (talk) 15:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

As a quick note for everyone, the criteria for any tornado or tornado outbreak to be included on this article can be seen at WP:TornadoCriteria. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

August 4-8 Outbreak Sequence?

With the multiple different areas of tornadic activity from August 4-8 (potentially 9th given there's another SLGT tomorrow), both as a result of Debby and the system that went through the lower midwest respectively, should it be listed as an outbreak sequence and have tornadoes from both the midwest system and the tornadoes listed from Hurricane Debby, or should they be separated in the article and any potential article(s) dedicated to these events? AutisticLoser (talk) 18:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Elkhorn NE Tornado EF4?

Per the damage indicator map from the NWS it appears 2 EF4 damage indicators have been added for this tornado. Should this be reflected as an EF4 now or do we need some other source of citation? Also backed up by Hunter Hurley storm chaser: [1]. --Kuzwa (talk) 04:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kuzwa: See this discussion for why Wikipedia is keeping it EF3. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Short summary: The tornado is officially and formally rated EF3. The EF4 rating is preliminary and not the official rating. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

NWS Omaha responded to this. They will announce their decision on Monday, for now it is still an EF3 and so no changes need to be made until confirmed otherwise DukeDragon28 (talk) 07:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Bayesian disaster

The storm that sunk the Bayesian is being reported to likely have been a tornadic waterspout. Should it be added to this list? Ionmars10 (talk) 05:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

No as it has not been confirmed whether the Bayesian was sunk by severe wind or a tornadic waterspout. The ESSL have listed the event as severe wind with a possibility of being a tornado and [2]https://www.meteonetwork.it/tt/stormreport/ has not listed the event as a tornado in their Storm Report. EuropeanXTwisters (talk) 08:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Authorities are now saying it was a downburst and not a waterspout. Ionmars10 (talk) 21:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

February 27-28

Request was likely made by a sockpuppet of Lokicat3345, who has been site banned Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Should this have a septate article? It wasnt as notable as other outbreaks this year. It did result in several injuries. Also, there were 24 tornadoes, four of which were rated EF2. Most of the tornadoes occured outside of the 10% tornado risk area. Multiple of the tornadoes have long summaries in the tornado list. 2600:1014:B14C:D3B8:0:56:5062:8501 (talk) 17:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

This isn’t exactly notable enough for a standalone article. It barely even meets the criteria for inclusion here. So no there shouldn’t be a standalone article.

Also; hi Lokicat, (note: that IP who made the comment above is very likely a sockpuppet of Lokicat3345, and is at SPI now, Lokicat has been persistently churning out sock puppets since at least August 2023. So for all you legitimate editors on here; please don’t interact with him and help report him. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 20:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hurricane Helene Tornado Outbreak Section

Should we get started on adding a section for the ongoing outbreak of tornadoes related to Hurricane Helene? Numerous Tornado Warnings, 3 watches, and at least a couple confirmed tornadoes from what I can tell. AutisticLoser (talk) 18:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Considering the EF3 tornado in NC; it may actually meet criteria for inclusion here. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 02:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)