Talk:USS Charles F. Hughes

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Derry/Londonderry[edit]

1) DANFS uses Londonderry, which means that it was probably that way in the official ships log or report, the usual source for DANFS. The relevant text of this article is a direct quote from DANFS, changes should have citations.

2) The ship left from the port, not the city, and even the Derry City Council refers to the port as Londonderry Port.

--J Clear 20:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sympathy to all who are mired in the Derry argument. Derryboy quotes WP:IMOS as a support for his view (which I would usually accept). However, this explicitly says it applies to article names and makes no recommendation on content. For me the issue is: was there a naval base and what was it called at the time - it's not uncommon for the military (US & UK) to allocate base names irrespective of local usage. Also, "Londonderry Port" is at Lisahally - was this where the wartime base would have been? Folks at 137 11:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to render my opinion if I could. I don't think we should look at DANFS as anything more than a starting point. It often has an unencylopedic tone and it's not very NPOV. Since it's public domain text, we can change it in any ways we want in order to improve it. We should feel no pressure to quote it exactly.

However, as you said, the port (which was a major base for antisubmarine operations in WWII) appears to be almost universally called "Londonderry Port", so it seems to me that the text should read "Londonderry Port" (instead of just Londonderry) with a link to Derry. TomTheHand 23:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Londonderry/Derry.--J Clear 12:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]