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This article stipulates Urban Folk is closely related to Anti-Folk. Please, someone familiar with the sub-genres, kindly discuss to compare and contrast the two. How/Why are they different? Thank you. 66.17.105.226 23:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the two terms emerged at essentially the same time (mid-1980s), but in different places. Today the two terms may be essentially synonymous. I would credit Billy Bragg with creating "urbane folk" in the U.K. at essentially the same time as other artists created NYC "anti-folk" on the lower-east-side of Manhattan. Many NYC anti-folk artists (e.g. Cindy Lee Berryhill, Paleface) toured as opening acts for Bragg back then.
Urban folk may, however, be a more inclusive term than anti-folk judging from the list of artists on this page. Many of these people make a brand of music that is more tame (i.e. less punk-influenced) than what I would consider anti-folk. I'd like to find some sources to help parse this out. -MrFizyx 21:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Urban folk dab or die?

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I've made the article a dab page for now. I think this may be a good option since I've seen the term used to describe a wide range of things. Woody Guthrie's music, any acoustic-based music dealing with themes of city life, or as a synonym for NYC anti-folk from the 80s/90s. I've also posted a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Roots music to see if anyone there wants to do something with the page or if we should just remove it from the {{Folk music}} template (the souce of many links to this page). -MrFizyx (talk) 14:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]