Talk:Vladimir Putin quotes

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User:Mikkalai transferred this section from Vladimir Putin to WikiQuote, but this suspended all the links. Moreover, there are points in this section which need lengthy comments, hardly appropriate in WikiQuote.

Nevertheless, I agree that the Vladimir Putin article is indeed too long. As Wikipedia contains such articles as Bushism, I think this one is also ok, although it is worth rewriting carefully. Colchicum 10:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Original research

The "Comrade Wolf" section looks like unsourced original research. Good candidate for deletion. 13-Apr-07

OK, for the lack of responses, I'm removing this section. 22-Apr-07

That quote was featured in the June 18, 2007 issue of time, on page 45 to be exact. Suaveslav 00:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Why not?

I do not understand why this page hasn't been moved to Wikiquote. It appears to be about 95% quote material, and the page on Putin looks like it needs some remodeling. Luosiji 21:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Because moving to Wikiquote would break all internal links.Colchicum 15:23, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Colchicum. It is more convenient to keep the quotes article here.Biophys 16:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

These two guys are the only ones who prefer to keep the page harboured in Wikipedia. Although I may see their agenda in this instance, no amount of agenda can justify violation of our policies in regard to quotes of active politicians. --Ghirla^-трёп- 12:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

hangon

(1) For the reasons to keep it see above (2) If there was a discussion on X for Deletion, you should at the very least provide a link to the discussion. Nothing in the edit history or on the talk page indicates that the page has ever been nominated properly, and I am sure that there wasn't anything. Colchicum 10:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

So, the reason given for speedy deletion seems to be false. If you don't like it, nominate it properly. Colchicum 10:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

While "process is important", we don't "nominate pages properly" for the sake of process being followed. WP:NOT and common sense tells that this page belongs to wikiquote, it has been properly transwikified, and it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell to survive an AfD. Special:Whatlinkshere/Vladimir Putin quotes shows 1 article in the mainspace, Vladimir Putin, linking here, which I just fixed. As for the "linking convenience", is it too difficult to spell [[q:Vladimir Putin]]? Duja► 14:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It is easy to spell q:Vladimir Putin. It is very difficult, however, to correct all the links referring back to Wikipedia that it contains. I don't have an account on Wikiquotes. If you do, please correct all internal links.Colchicum 14:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

"Extremely difficult"? It takes 2 minutes to do it with a decent text editor with macro capability and 10 minutes otherwise. If you ask me, half of those links are spurious anyway and should be removed rather than fixed. No, I'm not going to do it, as I think it's a wrong way to cure WP:POINT moves. Duja► 14:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

(1) I don't have an account on Wikiquote, so for me it would certainly take much more time. (2) Excuse me, do you mean that links to persons, political parties, broadcasting companies etc. are spurious? Internal links make Wikipedia coherent. And what moves and points are you talking about? Colchicum 14:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

1) I don't have an account on Wikiquote either. It takes 30 seconds to create it, or 0 if you want to edit anonymously. You can copy and paste from/to the edit window if you find default mediawiki interface inconvenient. 2) I'm not familiar with Wikiquote style and policies, but i suppose that links such as "Russian National Broadcasting company", and "fable" are self-explaining; its purpose in wikiquote is much reduced. 3) You were told several times that the article doesn't belong to here but to wikiquote, it was transwikified, and if you want corrections, go fix it there. I see your recreation of it, under the argument that "it's broken because it has few red links now", as a disruption of Wikipedia to prove a point. Duja► 14:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)