Talk:Walker Linerlock
Walker Linerlock V. Linerlock
[edit]Since linerlock redirects here, I expanded the history of generic liner lock knives, including the Camillus TL-29 Electricians knife and the 1906 patent. Perhaps (?) it can be claimed that Walker invented the Walker Linerlock, (that he trademarked) but it cannot be honestly claimed (nor implied) that he invented the liner lock.
- "Camillus made the electician's knives for the U.S. military and civilian sales for over 90 years. This was the #57 pattern."
- "The next year, 1930 the liner locking system was added and adopted as the new TL-29 Issue B. ....The Army performed two tests on the all metal knife but the Signal Corps shot it down for the simple lack of a locking screwdriver."
This article has the feel of an advertisement or self-promotion. It seems to me that Walker Linerlock should be a sub-category of liner lock. Certainly NOT vice versa. Suggest renaming.
--68.127.85.25 (talk) 19:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)Doug Bashford
- Disagree, that's kind of a loser argument that gets tossed out when ever someone doesn't like something on here. Make a compelling argument and I might support the change.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 08:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Well, what kind of evidence do you require? And for me to respond; what exactly is your argument? ...Are you denying that a "Walker Linerlock" is a sub-category, a mere refinement of the much older liner lock? ...Or are you claiming that Walker invented the liner lock, as most advertising copy has long implied?
- Also...what made the liner lock popular was not as advertised: Walker's lock, it was the popularity of one-handed OPENING, such as the "Spyderco Trademark Round Hole" and Kershaw's etc thumb studs applied to the wildly popular heavy duty Buck 110 Hunting Folder style, "one of the most popular knives ever made". To make that Buck style one-handed, just add studs and replace the lock-back with a liner lock. The old Camillus TL-29 series electricians knives already CLOSED with one hand, but they had mere nail-nick OPENing. Let's not confuse a rather minor refinement, market savvy, and trademark harnessed to market demand —with invention.
--68.127.86.60 (talk) 23:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC) Doug Bashford
- Also...what made the liner lock popular was not as advertised: Walker's lock, it was the popularity of one-handed OPENING, such as the "Spyderco Trademark Round Hole" and Kershaw's etc thumb studs applied to the wildly popular heavy duty Buck 110 Hunting Folder style, "one of the most popular knives ever made". To make that Buck style one-handed, just add studs and replace the lock-back with a liner lock. The old Camillus TL-29 series electricians knives already CLOSED with one hand, but they had mere nail-nick OPENing. Let's not confuse a rather minor refinement, market savvy, and trademark harnessed to market demand —with invention.
- Disagree on this paragraph, but you did persuade me to make Liner lock the title and make this a redirect.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)