Talk:White van speaker scam

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"White Van Speaker Scam"[edit]

I had this scam pulled on me twice about ten years apart. It was the same sales pitch, but different names(Acoustic & Kirsch). I recently purchased Klipsch speakers and informed the "speaker guy" of this,but he continued with his pitch. I asked him why I should purchase a knock-off when I have the real thing at home. He then began thumbing through an audio magazine I had never heard of, and even told me that I probably never heard of it because it was so high end. He saw that I was not going buy them for myself so he suggested that I buy them for a loved one because it was such "a smoking deal". At that point I told him that a guy approached me before with the same lies. He sped off without saying good bye or anything.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 02:57, 31 May 2007‎ (talkcontribs) 71.223.235.81

"Scammed today"[edit]

I had this pulled on me today I paid 400 for a "divinci" reciever with the speakers and all. The guy claimed to be from Barrie working in Toronto, and went to Buffalo to pick them up, and the guy messed up the order and gave him too many. So he claimed to be driving around looking to sell these "$3600 dollar speakers" to whoever wants them because they were cash in his pocket. I get home and look up the speakers online and find out about this white van speaker buisness. He even gave me a phony cell phone number so I would take him out for beers later on in the week or something. Sure enough, the number was fake too. All the signs point to the white speaker scam though. He even pulled out a magazine and showed them to me. Havent hooked up the speakers yet, so Im hoping they're at least better than the ones from 1984 that I have now. I'll be happy then.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.194.133 (talkcontribs) 03:08, 8 June 2007‎

i was in columbus at mcdonalds when the same thing happened to me i only gave the guy 100 so i think he fucked himself lol but the next time this happens ill probally shoot these pieces of shit right between the eyes.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.197.43 (talkcontribs) 22:32, 23 June 2010‎

Another Paradyme?[edit]

http://www.paradyme.com/

This one is located in Sacramento rather than the one we have which is located in Colorado. Compared to most white van scam sites, this one seems to be well constructed and even has a real address rather than a warehouse. I'm not sure if this is another scam and probably isn't, but if this is real, should this company be mentioned?--BallinChadWarden (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

This web site is for a retailer, not for a manufacturer -- Foetusized (talk) 03:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Pro Dynamics?[edit]

A real brand?? From something called Tyler Acoustics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.239.138 (talk) 01:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

List of brands associated with the scam[edit]

I cut this list for being potentially libellous last month but an IP editor added it back. Does this article really benefit from an incomplete, unsourced list of brands which passing editors (including, it seems likely, some white van scammers themselves) have selectively added and removed names from? We risk libelling manufacturers by implying that their products are "associated" with the scam, and there's a danger of misleading the reader into thinking the article somehow speaks from great authority (and that if the speaker they're about to buy isn't listed, it might be okay).

Wikipedia is not a legal advice column. I'm sure there are websites out there that are keeping track of dubious manufacturers, and whose list is exhaustive and vetted - http://www.scamshield.com/Feature.asp?id=1 looks like a good one, grouping reports by country and state. I think we'd do our readers more of a favour if we just linked to that, rather than trying to maintain our own list. What do other editors think? --McGeddon (talk) 15:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

As someone who once tried to keep unreferenced entries out of the list (but have not been able to keep up lately), I also recognize that many of the "sources" that are used in the list do not meet Wikipedia standards for reliable sources. A few good external links to other sites that maintain such lists would be an improvement over the current mess -- Foetusized (talk) 02:31, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Looks like Scamshield was already in the external links - I've gone ahead and cut the list, and clarified the usefulness of the Scamshield link. --McGeddon (talk) 17:00, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
I came here specifically to see the list of brands !
Scamshield database is down 'for upgrades' as of now.
--195.137.93.171 (talk) 06:06, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

whitevanspeakerscam.com[edit]

User:2607:fb90:282c:a9c0:fa29:4df:53bc:d264 wants to add a link to a brand new "report scams here" website. It has, so far as I can tell, just a single report on it. The domain was registered two days ago. It seems like a "personal web site" of WP:ELNO #11 at the moment.

This article already links to a Scamshield database that goes back years. Do we need a link to whitevanspeakerscam.com? --McGeddon (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

The site now appears to be offline, with a Google cache showing only five entries by the 12th of December and a footnote of "Reports up until July 2013 available at Scamshield", so let's just link to Scamshield. --McGeddon (talk) 09:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)