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Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 03:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming you're back within a reasonable amount of time, I can just leave this for a while. Tezero (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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Why is the multiplayer mode mentioned only in the infobox, and with citations?

Originally I thought this game didn't have multiplayer because I only have the Sega Saturn version (that doesn't have multiplayer) but someone pointed out to me that the PS1 version does. I don't know how to the mention the multiplayer in the lead (as per all other Wipeout articles), but if you want I could mention it in the lead or somewhere else in the article? ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At least elsewhere in the article. Are the multiplayer tracks the same as the single-player ones? How many racers are there in the multiplayer mode? 8? 12? 16? (Speaking of which, how many racers are there in the single-player? Does it vary?) Aside from racing, is there any kind of battle mode? Tezero (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because I only grew up with the Saturn version, I had never seen multiplayer before so after looking on YouTube I got an idea of it. Looks like straightforward split screen gameplay. Added in gameplay ☯ Jaguar ☯ 13:16, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In what way is the Mars track "hidden"? Do you unlock it after beating the rest? Do any kind of credits roll?

Yep unlocked after all have been beaten, reworded. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"which was designed in part" - Psygnosis was designed by someone?

I see why that sounds misleading, Psygnosis were (in the 90s) independent and developed the game but The Designers Republic designed the marketing and art etc. Reworded. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"same types of vehicles" - What types? F-Zero and Super Mario Kart feature very different types of vehicles.

They are anti-gravity rocket ship-like things. I've elaborated (much better than I did there) in the article. I hope this is OK. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"by the instrumental song" - WP:EASTER; just name the song outright (I thought you were just linking to Song)

You're right, done. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Wipeout's designer Nick Burcome exceptionally suggesting" - what do you mean "exceptionally"?

Sounds confusing you're right.. I wrote exceptionally as in "to a greater degree than normal" but it doesn't make sense after reading it again. I was going to find another word but I have removed it entirely. Do you think it sounds better like this or should I reword it? ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably better without it, thanks. Tezero (talk) 16:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Citations: is it Digital Spy or DigitalSpy?

The website allocates it with the space, so I've corrected. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"A separately sold Official Soundtrack Album" - WP:EASTER again

I didn't write that part, but reworded. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Upon release, the game was critically acclaimed and received positive reviews and considerable praise from critics" - ...What? Was this you?

Seriously, this is not a joke, I remember one night in July I was intoxicated and that was when I wrote must of this article. I even mentioned it in czar's review of Wipeout 64. Umm, reworded to "was critically acclaimed and received considerable praise from magazines and critics alike", but if you want I could get rid of 'critics' completely. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Magazines are reviewers, I think, so I've just taken the second clause out. Hope that's okay. Tezero (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How is IMDb a reliable source for sales? I clicked just for grins, and it doesn't even say anything about that.

Removed, I am surprised that I left this in the article. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:16, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sources 5 and 6 ("VGGEN.com News - WipEout Races to PSP via PS3" and "PS STORE RELEASE DATES CONFIRMATION | Three Speech: Semi-Official PlayStation Blog") are unformatted.

Dealt with ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:16, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, is it Mobygames or MobyGames?

Capital 'G', fixed ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:16, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding that site's publisher, is it just MobyGames or Blue Flame Labs?

According to the website the owner is Blue Flame Labs, so added to publishers ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:16, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Citations 21 and 22 ("Press Release - Archives 1997 - ATI's 3D RAGE technology selected by Gateway to provide feature rich 3D to the Corporate, SOHO and home PC markets" and "WayBackMachine Internet Archive - What does the 3D XPRESSION+ PC2TV come with?") need works and publishers

I was thinking of cutting these out entirely but I solved the issue. I also cut the first title so it isn't cluttered anymore ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For citation 24, we have a page on OverClocked Remix. No idea what the publisher would be, though.

I think it's independent - information says "Original content is copyright OverClocked ReMix, LLC" - so I assume that's the owner too. Added "OverClocked ReMix, LLC" to publisher, is this OK?

Yeah, should be fine. Tezero (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intro's unusually long considering the size of the body; I'd suggest paring down a little.

Do you mean the lead? I thought the lead was of reasonable size but what in particular do you mean? ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the lead. Why is the legacy mentioned in the lead but nowhere else? (For now, I've removed some stuff about the processing power that seemed overly detailed for the lead.) Also, the sequels should be mentioned somewhere in the body, especially since they supposedly received "critical acclaim". Tezero (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a ~~Sequels~~ Legacy section under Reception, I hope this is alright. Not sure if it would be more suitable to rename that section Sequels instead of Legacy. I agree with you removing the processing power details from the lead, it seemed unnecessary to be there. Most of the games of the Wipeout series were met to critical acclaim, with Wipeout Pure being one of the best selling PSP games, but I thought it was unnecessary to mention the precise details of the future games in this article. ☯ Jaguar ☯ 13:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not gonna lie, it's more than a little rough, but I trust you can handle it. Tezero (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tezero: I think I have most. Sorry about the mess of the article, it is my fault that I did not clean this up properly after renominating it and also this article was both fused with my rough work of late nights in July to more a cleaner prose product from November. I think I have addressed most of your concerns but I need some clarification on your last question regarding the intro being long. If you have any thing else to point out I will be happy to address them. Thanks for the review. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tezero: I think that's everything. I have looked through the article and made sure the prose was up to a good standard too. I have addressed your comments above, if you have any more questions about the article please let me know. ☯ Jaguar ☯ 13:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, looks good so I'll be passing. If you're interested in sticking around, I have three unaddressed GANs; otherwise, enjoy your break. Tezero (talk) 16:28, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and I'm fine for now, this GAN has inspired me to come back. I took a short break in order to get away from the stress over Christmas, but I'll be happy to take your GANs. I am in Round 4 of the GA cup and need all the GANs I can get! ☯ Jaguar ☯ 19:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]