Talk:Yara Shahidi/Archive 1

Archive 1

Name meaning

if you know Persian, I came here because of the given name. Here is what I have been able to figure out on my own. Tell me how it can be argued that the name means "someone close to your heart". یار means "friend", which I suppose you might paraphrase as "someone close to your heart" if you are paid by the word, but یارا is the vocative, so "hey, friend" (but of a man). It seems much more likely that we are looking at a feminine abstract noun یارا "strength" here, but maybe you have some explanation I have missed. --dab (𒁳) 13:54, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Ethnicity - Iranian-American

Hi LouisAragon, I was wondering in what circumstance someone would "drop" their ethnicity? Why is it controversial to be Iranian-American - this is an ethnicity not a nationality. I understand why it makes sense to remove the second nationality. Perhaps this Is a local or regional thing as to where you live? Shahidi has done interviews in which she acknowledges her ethnic background... Jooojay (talk) 18:52, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

it's not controversial, it's just misleading in cases of multiple-ancestry individuals. Just like Obama isn't just "Kenyan-American", his father is Kenyan, so he is of partial (half) Kenyan ancestry. --dab (𒁳) 13:54, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

dab We frequently use the term African-American not Kenyan-American, as per your example. In the US, when someone has multiple ancestry it's normally acknowledged. Jooojay (talk) 21:12, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Nobody used the term "partially" for being of mixed races or ethnicities. I have never seen that in colloquial English before. Jooojay (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Inclusion on the See Also:List of famous Iranian women

She is an American of Iranian descent, not an Iranian woman. Her article should not be linked to List of Famous Iranian Women via the See Also section. Golbahar98712 (talk) 13:44, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Golbahar98712 - Yara Shahidi is listed on the See also: List of famous Iranian women because according to that list page, if you read the talk page, it was decided that people with a single parent or mixed heritage are allowed. It looks like you are new to editing on Wikipedia, please stop deleting things if you are confused about process. If you need help, please consider a visit to the Wikipedia Tea House or talk pages before you start edit wars. Jooojay (talk) 02:40, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Script

Her name on her page has sometimes appeared written in the Persian script next to her birth name in the opening paragraph. As she was born in America this is unnecessary: it is merely trivia rather than her name as transcripted at birth. For example, Shohreh Aghdashloo's entry on Wikipedia has her name both in Persian and Roman scripts on her page because she was born in Iran. As Yara Shahidi was not born in Iran there is no legitimate reason for her name to be written in Persian on her page.Golbahar98712 (talk) 13:44, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

She uses her name in Farsi script on social media, she is Iranian-American please don't assume this is "not legitimate" since she is American. You are trivializing her identity. 76.246.10.60 (talk) 21:46, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Ethnicity - Choctaw descent

Someone keeps deleting her ethnicity or parts of her ethnicity within the article. We have citations reading that her mother is African American and of Choctaw descent and her father is Iranian American. I don't exactly understand why this keeps changing on this specific article. Please discuss here before changing or removing information that is already cited. [1] [2] [3] Jooojay (talk) 08:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

It gets removed because you can't just cite something on the talk page — you need to do it in the article. The Star Tribune cite here on this talk page never uses the word "Choctaw", incidentally, so I'm not sure why you claim that as a cite.

It would also be helpful if you explained your edits in the edit summary. You made unexplained edits to citations. Why? --Tenebrae (talk) 20:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry Tenebrae I didn't added a line in each edit, I assumed you could see in edit history preview and I added notes here on the talk page.

In my latest edits included adding the archived URL since the US State Department removed the webpage (when Trump took office), nobody updated the link. The article on muftah.org mentions Choctaw specifically and this citation was in this article and it was added to this article many times, you can see it in the edits history. "What few people know, however, is that the role of Zoey, the Johnson’s eldest daughter, is played by a sixteen-year-old, Iranian-American actress. Born to an Iranian father, Afshin Shahidi, and a mother of mixed African-American and Native Choctaw heritage, Keri Salter, Yara Shahidi lived in Minneapolis before moving to California at a young age." – from muftah.org article. I posted here on the talk page because now it is looking like vandalism since it is not explained why. Jooojay (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

That's all good, and I'm glad you've done this, and I'll help in any way I can to integrate the material. I'm glad you can see why edit summaries would have made this all much less confusing. One request: When you reinsert muftag.org, it'd be most clear if that specific cite was right at the spot where it says Choctaw.

Thanks again for your work and research! --Tenebrae (talk) 21:19, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Tenebrae I owe you a big thank you, for being so nice on here and I really appreciate you taking the time to use the talk page! I have never added a specific sentence to a citation before but I think I should add it because that citation had been right next to Choctaw all along! I also found a few more citations related to Choctaw descent which I can added to support it too.Hopefully I can figure it out - I have been running the VE for years (for the sake of bugs/design fails) so this might need to be a citation via source instead. Jooojay (talk) 21:36, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Of course, and I appreciate your collegiality as well. What's "VE," by the way? --Tenebrae (talk) 21:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Tenebrae - VE is the visual editor on Wikipedia, it has limitations (still). Jooojay (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Why Wikipedia censors her Iranian background?

She always says she's an Iranian American. For example a proud Black Iranian, As a POC/ proud Iranian/ human being. I don't understand why you guys remove her Iranian background from this article?! 188.158.71.199 (talk) 12:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:

• Yara Shahidi Emmys.jpg

You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 17:09, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Photo

Can someone place a recent, representative photo of the subject in this Wiki? Thanks

Navarrocortez (talk) 23:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Agreed Genetikbliss (talk) 23:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes this is insulting to her, she is not a child anymore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.65.174.192 (talk) 04:33, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done wumbolo ^^^ 11:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Insulting in what way Kaygee Skidmore (talk) 17:44, 4 January 2020 (UTC)