Talk:Young Living/Archives/2016

2015 Sales report is not credible

CoolKoon inserted this source as evidence that Young Living had $1 billion in 2015 sales. However distinguished (or not) the Utah Daily Herald may be, this report is not journalism providing convincing follow up and secondary confirmation by an independent source, but rather extracts quotes and accepts the dubious claim of billion dollar performance from a press release by Young Living itself here. The Daily Herald report is just a blog repeat, as is evident from the thin reporting of two other events on the same page. One would have to be quite gullible to believe that Young Living sales number, but in the interests of an objective WP article on the company, we need a secondary financial source that meets WP:RS. Consequently, I reverted the content and source as simply not credible until supported adequately and independently. --Zefr (talk) 13:53, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Merger proposal

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No consensus in 1 year. Only supporting editor withdrew support. AlexEng^(TALK) 19:36, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

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This section is to discuss User:Rhode Island Red's proposed merger of Donald Gary Young to here.

• Support There is much info about Young out there, but he doesn't quite seem to meet WP:BIO to me, so merging seems like the best solution. As discussed above, his past legal troubles make this a WP:BLP minefield. Grayfell (talk) 23:22, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what is being proposed here - I don't see how we can 'merge' a biography of an individual with an article on a company without creating an unfocussed hybrid. Which is supposed to be notable, the individual, or the company? I'm not convinced that either are independently, and notability is an attribute of article topics, rather than being something that can be concocted by running together not-quite-notable subject matter. And yes, biographical material on Young is problematic - and will remain so, if added to an article on the company. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

If the legal problems are worth mentioning at all, and I honestly don't know if they are, then maybe the bio should remain as an article. After Young Living was founded, most sources (out of the few reliable ones) cover them as closely related topics. From the Daily Beast article: "It must be noted that in the company's literature, there appears to be an uncomfortable cult of personality around Young..."[1] If there's no article on Young, then a brief summary of his personal history seems like it would make sense here. How brief that summary should be is debatable, but the article seems incomplete without mentioning something about him. Grayfell (talk) 01:06, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

The article about Donald Gary Young has expanded with enough content unrelated to this company that I no longer think a merger is appropriate. Grayfell (talk) 22:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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