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"pause" option[edit]

To me it looks useful to add an option |answered=pause, between |answered=yes and |answered=no. The pause implies time for discussion &tc. Pausing the request by stating |answered=yes, however effective, is not clear. In general, |answered=pause could have the same effect though. -DePiep (talk) 23:01, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

The instructions clearly say that {tl|editprotected}} should not be used until a specific edit is backed by consensus. When used properly, pausing a request should never be needed. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:16, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
More than once such a consensus is challenged by a would-be admin, thereby stepping back in process-time (no problem, but it does require a pause and not the incorrect "answ=yes" status). Also, there may be code-technical questions raised. -DePiep (talk) 13:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

From Module space, using edit request[edit]

I experienced: I started an edit request from a protected Module page, to have that module page changed. I landed on the Template talkpage (all fine, I am familiar in there).

Example: {{RailGauge}} (now through a Lua module). Got to Module:RailGauge for a module edit change. Click "view source" (no "edit" because protected), gives link option "Submit an edit request". From that we are lead back to Template talk space for my edit request.

My question is: are these multi-namespace edit requests covered well? (And if so, why is there no module-links-list in this template, as with template space?). I, as an editor, got confused as to "did my request end well". Does an editor get the namespace diff? Why is there not a Module-space links in the template? (The actual experience was with Template_talk:RailGauge#Edit_request_on_26_August_2013 and its module) -DePiep (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

That's not because of anything to do with the edit protected templates. That's just because Module talk:RailGauge redirects Template talk:RailGauge. As far as I know, everything still works fine when that happens. I requested an edit to Module:Infobox not too long ago, and its talk page redirects to the template talk, and it worked fine. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
You just need to fill in the first positional parameter, as in {{edit protected|Module:RailGauge}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
re Jackmcbarn. I did not say it was related to protection. I said it is about redirection. From this template.
I asked an edit request from module space, about module space. I did not choose to be redirected spaces, and I did not have to "know" that I would be redirected. My request was not from outside of Modulespace. (Note that I used, and specified, that route here).
Don't blame me. The route I clicked, as described, made me to expect to be in M space. And no, I'll never need to fill in [also] to arrive as I expected.
My request to change the template stands. -DePiep (talk) 23:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I propose to adjust the link for "submit an edit request" so that it automatically fills in the name of the page you are on. We could do this just for module pages, or on any page where talk page redirects to somewhere else. To this end I have created Template:Submit an edit request and will experiment there before deploying to the interface messages. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
I've done some experimenting but what I suggested above does not appear possible, because preload templates do not handle parameters. We could use a different preload template, but I can't see any way to get the module name in the template automatically. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:37, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I've experimented with this too, and it would need a MediaWiki update. Maybe it's time I started learning some PHP... — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
gerrit:116482 will allow this once someone +2's it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Module:Edit request[edit]

@Redrose64, MSGJ, and Anomie: It's been a little while in coming, but Module:Edit request is now pretty much ready. Before we deploy it, however, we need to think about how it will fit in with the workflow of people who monitor the edit request categories. At the moment, the module detects the protection level of pages it is passed, and it categorises the current page based on those protection levels. See the module page for documentation, and see the test cases for a basic idea of what the module can do.

As I've been writing this module, I have come to realise that while automatic detection of the protection level sounds good in theory, in practice there may be some situations where it is not ideal. For example, if an edit is requested to a fully protected template, and then the protection level is reduced to semi, the request will be treated as a semi-protected edit request, but the request text may seem odd because it was written with a fully protected edit request in mind. Another quite common scenario would be where users forget to specify a page name for pages that aren't the immediate subject page. This means that the request category would be generated from the immediate subject page, rather than the page that was actually intended, which might mean that the request is skipped over. Also, assigning categories based on actual protection status means that we need to think about what to do with unprotected pages. What are everyone's thoughts on the best way to make this work?

Also, if you have any other questions or comments about the module, I'll be happy to hear them. And while I'm thinking about it, I have a question for Anomie: at the moment, the urn links percent-encode colons after the namespace name. Is this a problem? I can change it if so. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Percent-encoding colons would be fine. Other thoughts:
  • You should probably do the check currently at line 53 first, with the check at line 48 as an elseif.
  • You should probably also include checks for user JS and CSS, which are effectively sysop-protected. Currently this is as simple as it being in the namespace 2 and matching the pattern /.*%.js$ or /.*%.css$.
  • A harder problem is detecting pages that are on MediaWiki:Titleblacklist. Right now it will claim "unprotected" for these when they are actually protected.
HTH. Anomie 17:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, the title blacklist is a tricky one. A few minutes' searching turned up lrexlib, a Lua regex library, but that would need to be actually part of Scribunto as it uses native C files. I see from bugzilla:50454 that getting this to work securely would be difficult, however. Otherwise I suppose we would need to add access to the title blacklist from Scribunto, or ask for a {{MATCHESTITLEBLACKLIST}} magic word. At a glance I don't see any bugs about that last one - will have a more detailed search later on. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
The line 53 check is now fixed as you suggested, and I have added support for user .js and .css pages. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:53, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I just realised another stumbling block to truly accurate protection detection - we don't have any way to detect cascade-protected pages. Most cascade-protected pages are also fully protected, but there are some that aren't, and at the moment they show up as unprotected. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:35, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
  • I've reworked the module slightly so that the protection level is taken from the template, rather than detected from the page specified. This should avoid any problems with inaccurate detection, at least until the problems mentioned above can be dealt with. The result is similar enough to the old {{edit protected}} that I didn't think updating it required discussion, and I have made the switch to the module already. It seems to be working fine with the existing AnomieBOT script. Let me know if you find anything amiss. Also, Anomie, there is now a template for template-protected edit requests at {{edit template-protected}}, so if you could work your magic in creating an equivalent of User:AnomieBOT/PERTable I would be very grateful. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:24, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
    Done, and the category is updated to transclude it. I also took the opportunity to refresh the layout of the other protection categories. Anomie 14:40, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Misleading message about redirect[edit]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2014[edit]

It is important to edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahesh_Babu (talk) 10:57, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{Edit protected}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned.
However, I note that the page Mahesh Babu isn't even semi=protected, so you can edit it yourself. - Arjayay (talk) 11:36, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2014[edit]

Homeopathy is a system of medical practice that treats a disease especially by the administration of minute doses of a remedy that would in larger amounts produce in healthy persons symptoms similar to those of the disease. It is fully legal and official in many countries around the world. The definition belongs to:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeopathy (talk) 04:25, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{Edit protected}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:27, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2015[edit]

PLEASE delete Samira Samii.... Why no one try to correct the information.... She doesn't live in Germany... She is famous Sport-Manager... The history of Mahdavikia is 10 years old and damage her privacy... How can be WEKIPEDIA DOENST care about the privacy of persons which are in public... Everyday new article with wrong source... and these source are a fact for users... what a shame!!!! Me as an Iranian-German want to support delectation of samira samii page.... MaxXXX-max (talk) 11:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  B E C K Y S A Y L E 11:43, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
@MaxXXX-max: Also, this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{Edit protected}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:15, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2015[edit] (talk) 15:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC) if his wife elsa died she is not sitting with him but his second is sitting with him

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{Edit protected}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:30, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 8 May 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved, unopposed for over a month. I should add that moving templates is largely pointless and should be discouraged where possible. Jenks24 (talk) 13:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Template:Edit protectedtemplate:edit fully protected – per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_6 indication, this template is not for use on protected pages, it is for use on fully protected pages, so should so indicate in its naming --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 03:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC) -- (talk) 03:37, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • 'Support I am the nominator -- (talk) 03:38, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


Any additional comments:
  • Comment if possible, the current name should autodetect the page protection type of the page in question automagically (would LUA be able to do that?) to display the proper edit request type (semi,fully,template) -- (talk) 03:37, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
    • It already does do that. The question is what should it do if the page isn't protected at all? Anomie 18:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.