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WHY CONSENSUS FAILS

"Wikipedia NPOV editing is based upon consensus on how the policies and guidelines should be followed.
Sometimes the process fails: either because the prejudice of the general community, or the local bias of a small dominant group of editors in an area.
Recent examples will be presented in areas dealing with politics and science"

Consensus

  • Consensus is general agreement
  • Consensus is general agreement that everyone is willing to live with
  • Consensus is enough general agreement that everyone must live with

Consensus about content is usually decided

  • on article talk pages / RfC
  • at Reliable sources Noticeboard /RfC (or other noticeboards)
  • at AfD / Deletion Review
  • (implied generally by arb com)
  • (indirectly by Sanctions/Discretionary sanctions)

Consensus is set by those users who care enough to participate

Determining Consensus

  • "Consensus is ascertained by the quality of the arguments given on the various sides of an issue, as viewed through the lens of Wikipedia policy."
  • is decided by judging the view of those who understand the issue and base their arguments on policy
  • is decided by a rough count of good-faith editors who understand the issue and base their arguments on policy
  • is sometimes decided by vote.

Consensus can fail because

  • nobody really cares
  • there is insufficient agreement
  • the closing does not affect the actual editing
  • the argument is biased by individuals or a group
  • editors are manipulated by the more experienced into doing something unforgivable
  • the closing is biased
  • the effect of the decision is affected by community bias

Older examples

  • Scientology
  • Homeopathy

Manipulation

  • German war effort
  • Race and intelligence

Bias in sourcing

  • Origin of covid
  • American politics
  • Race and Intelligence
  • Religions (Roman catholic, Eastern orthodox, Judaism, Shite Islam)

Community bias

  • American politics
  • Race and intelligence
  • Climate Change
  • Attractive young people (AfDs)
  • Popular products (AfDs)