User:DGG/Notability 2012
The End of Notability
[edit]- I. The end (purpose) of notability
- II. The end (finish) of notability
The end purpose of notability
[edit]- to give users the confidence that we are an encyclopedia,
- by being similar to familiar encyclopedias,
- with respect to not including the culturally trivial subjects
- and by not including promotionalism or directory information
- (assuming that articles on non-notable subjects are overwhelmingly likely to be promotion)
- to give users the confidence that we are an encyclopedia,
The formal definitions (WP:N)
[edit]Article topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice".'
Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things like fame, importance, or popularity
A topic is presumed to merit an article if it meets the general notability guideline below, and is not excluded under "What Wikipedia is not"
If a topic has received
- significant coverage
- in reliable sources that are
- independent of the subject,
it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria.
"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail ...more than a trivial mention
"Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the WP:reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.
"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject or its creator. For example, self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, the subject's website, autobiographies, and press releases are not independent.
"Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources establishes a presumption, not a guarantee, that a subject is suitable for inclusion. Editors may reach a consensus that although a topic meets this criterion, it is not appropriate for a stand-alone article. For example, it may violate What Wikipedia is not, for example, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.
Special Notability Gidelines
[edit]A topic is also presumed notable if it meets a subject-specific guideline:
- Academics
- Astronomical objects
- Books
- Events
- Films
- Music
- Numbers
- Organizations & companies
- People
- Sports and athletes
The Real Guideline
[edit]SOMETHING IS NOTABLE IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE IT
The termination of notability
[edit]Why
[edit]- imprecision of the guidelines
- inconsistency of the guidelines
- unreality of the guidelines
- variable significance of the sourcing requirement
- topics with a superabundance of sources
- topics with insufficient conventional sources
Replacements
[edit]Wikipedia inclusion
[edit]Make decisions not on the basis of whether something is worth an article, but on what extent the coverage of something should have, from the spectrum of a mention in a list, a sentence, a paragraph, a sub-article, a full article, a group of related articles.
Wikpedia Two
[edit]Wikipedia Two (Wikipedia Supplement)
- for local, more detailed, and less consequential things;
- for people or institutions having just a mention in Wikipedia having fuller coverage in WikipediaTwo.
- satisfy the inclusionists, permitting coverage of a wide range of disputable subjects,
- satisfy the deletionists, keeping those disputable articles out of the main Wikipedia.
Different from Wikipedia
[edit]Not requiring notability
Different from Wikia
[edit]Keeping our key values
- Verifiability
- No Original Research
- NPOV
Different from Local Wikis
[edit]Not just "local" people, places, & things.