User:Hans Adler/Microformats

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Discussions about microformats[edit]

2007-05 WT:What Wikipedia is not/Archive 11#Microformats
Pigsonthewing asks for feedback for a suggestion that microformats contradict WP:NOT. Most editors think it is not a contradiction to WP:NOT if Wikipedia articles contain invisible microformats, but that it is not OK at all if pages contain additional wikicode just to make that possible. In other words, microformats may only be implemented within templates that would be used anyway, where they don't bother anyone.
2007-06 WP:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 June 10#Inline microformat templates
Paradisal sends three inline microformat templates to TfD. Result: No consensus. (Two are deleted in October 2009 as unused/redundant. One is currently used in a single article.)
2007-06 WP:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive256#Captain scarlet and microformats
Adambro reports Captain scarlet to ANI for an announced intent to free Wikipedia of microformats. Pigsonthewing points to WT:What Wikipedia is not/Archive 11#Microformats as indicating support for microformats. Hit bull, win steak comments: "The consensus on that page seems to be in favor of microformats, but the discussion isn't exactly extensive, so it wouldn't hurt to hash out the pros and cons in more detail." llywrch comments: "I agree with HBWS on this. Until I saw this discussion, I had never heard of Microformats, let alone knew they existed; [...]." Neil suggests taking the discussion to the VP. Finally, everyone but the two main protagonists stops commenting.
2007-06 WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive263#User:Pigsonthewing
In this case regarding two users who were maintaining mutual attack pages in user space, Folantin comments: "This really is an unusual case: a Pigsonthewing ANI which doesn't involve microformats. Mabbett's campaign to push through microformats in the face of any opposition has caused untold friction around Wikipedia and has been the origin of many incidents appearing on this page, including the classical music infobox debates."
2007-07 WP:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing 2
After Pigsonthewing edit-warred to put infoboxes into articles of classical composers, where by consensus of the relevant WikiProjects they were not desired (details on the evidence page), Pigsonthewing gets his second 1-year Arbcom ban.
2007-08 WP:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive279#User preventing development of new service
Pigsonthewing takes a microformat-related content conflict with Paradisal to ANI.
2008-09 WP:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 15#Templates for timelines
Pigsonthewing announces a new kind of template for timelines that involves microformats. (The templates are currently used in 3 articles.)
2008-09 WP:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 September 16#Template:Biota
Hesperian sends an inline microformat template to AfD. The discussion ends as delete, after vehement protest of Pigsonthewing.
2008-09 WP:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive476#User:Pigsonthewing blocked for edit-warring personal attacks.
In the course of this discussion about a user with two previous Arbcom bans, Moreschi comments: "What you might not realise... Is that Andy Mabbett has been trolling Usenet for ages. He's [...] an old usenet troll with the stubbornness levels of a moody ox. Google Andy+Mabbett+troll, or just 'Andy Mabbett'. It's usually microformats and technological stuff, occasionally birdwatching."
2008-10 WP:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_36#Death age categories
Eklipse proposes the use of microformats for death ages as an alternative to categories.
2009-01 WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive182
Pigsonthewing claims that a recent change to the Coord template has broken the microformats it creates. The change had consensus and nobody can see the problem. Previous discussion was at Template talk:Coord/Archive 6#Non-consensual changes.
2009-02 WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 57#Styling links
JJMesserly asks a technical question about adding a microformat to a wiki link. There seems to be no way to do it with the current server software.
2009-02 WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive513#Reversion of large numbers of my edits by User:Pigsonthewing
Long dialogue between JJMesserly and Pigsonthewing on ANI. After 22 hours Fabrictramp makes three comments to encourage them to stop.
2009-02 WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive516#Damage to microformats
Pigsonthewing complains that JJMesserly is damaging microformats. Guy and Sandstein comment that Pigsonthewing seems to have ownership issues. The discussion ends with Pigsonthewing claiming that Guy is lying.
2009-03 WP:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 19#Announcing Free text time templates
Enthusiastic editor JJMesserly proudly announces some new microformat. Only CharlotteWeb responds, with a question, and is obviously unimpressed.
2009-08 WP:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 51#Microformats
TheDJ asks whether there is support for adding microformats to stub templates. MSGJ says no. Pigsonthewing says MSGJ's argument is a non sequitur.
2009-09 WP:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 52#Microformats in stubs redux
Pigsonthewing complains that some editors disagree about microformats in stubs and asks for additional input. No responses in the thread.
2009-09 WP:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 52#Microformats in navboxes
In connection with an editprotected request, TheDJ asks the community whether Pigsonthewing's claim of consensus for microformats in navigation boxes is correct. One user is confused, another user argues there is no relevant information in navboxes. Only Pigsonthewings argues for them.
2010-04 WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 73#REL and CLASS attributes in links and images
Pigsonthewing aks about the best place to ask for server support for microformats in links. A technical discussion ensues.
2010-04 WP:Village pump (policy)/Archive 74#Inline templates to emit microformats
Pigsonthewing proposes that inline templates such as convert and lang should use microformats in the same way that coord already does. Nobody responds.
2010-04 WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 74#Tables: thead, tbody & tfoot and WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 74#thead, tbody & tfoot
Pigsonthewing asks whether it's possible to do something that is necessary for adding microformats to tables. Apparently it is not.

Tangential discussions[edit]

2009-08 WP:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 51#CC badge?
Discussion about a specific microformat announcing the Creative Commons licence.
2009-11 WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 67#DBpedia Template Annotations
Big RfC started by SebastianHellmann who wanted to get support for DBpedia editing templates to add their metadata support. Several editors mention microformats in the discussion, but the relation is not clear.