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User:Jnestorius/Dual player

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Bearing in mind the following:

I propose the following naming conventions GAA player bio articles:

  1. Where not a dual player:
    1. Usual dab: John Foo (hurler) (or John Foo (Gaelic footballer) or Joan Foo (camogie) as the case may be)
      • I think Joan Foo (Gaelic footballer) is preferable to Joan Foo (ladies' Gaelic footballer) where relevant
    2. If still ambiguous, use the following formats (in descending order of preference)
      1. John Foo (Cork hurler) (or John Foo (Cork and Dublin hurler) if represented both counties at senior level, and one does not predominate over the other in the popular consciousness)
      2. John Foo (Cork hurler, born 1977)
      3. John Foo (St. Finbarr's hurler, born 1977)
  2. Where is a dual player:
    1. If reasonably well-known in both:
      1. John Foo (sportsperson) if not ambiguous
        • redirect from John Foo (dual player) and John Foo (Gaelic footballer) AND John Foo (hurler)
      2. If "sportsperson" is ambiguous (whether clashing with other GAA players or with players other sports), try (in descending order of preference)
        1. John Foo (Irish sportsperson)
        2. John Foo (Cork sportsperson)
        3. John Foo (Gaelic football and hurling) (or John Foo (hurling and Gaelic football) if better known in hurling)
        4. John Foo (Cork Gaelic football and hurling)
        5. John Foo (St. Finbarr's Gaelic football and hurling)
        6. John Foo (Gaelic football and hurling, born 1977)
        7. John Foo (Cork Gaelic football and hurling, born 1977)
        8. John Foo (St. Finbarr's Gaelic football and hurling, born 1977)
    2. If significantly better known in one (say hurling) than the other:
      1. Use John Foo (hurler) if not ambiguous
        • If "hurler" is ambiguous same cases as listed above for non-dual player
      2. Redirect from John Foo (dual player)
      3. If not ambiguous redirect from John Foo (Gaelic footballer)
        • otherwise add a hatnote to "John Foo (Gaelic footballer)" if that's an article
      4. If not ambiguous also redirect from John Foo (sportsperson)

Table

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Current title Proposed title Notes
John Bunyan (sportsperson) John Bunyan (sportsperson) (no move) DAB John Bunyan
Redmond Barry (sportsperson) Redmond Barry (sportsperson) (no move) DAB Redmond Barry (disambiguation) has no other sportsperson
Mary O'Connor (Irish sportsperson) Mary O'Connor (Irish sportsperson) (no move) DAB Mary O'Connor (athlete) from New Zealand
Brian Murphy (Gaelic games) Brian Murphy (Gaelic football and hurling) DAB Brian Murphy (hurler, born 1982) and Brian Murphy (1960s Gaelic footballer) both from Cork
Brian Murphy (hurler, born 1982) Brian Murphy (hurler, born 1982) (no change) DAB Brian Murphy (Gaelic games) from Cork
Brian Murphy (1990s Gaelic footballer) Brian Murphy (Dublin Gaelic footballer) or Bryan Murphy (Gaelic footballer) Article is not clear about his DOB or spelling of his surname. Also redirect from Brian Murphy (Kerry Gaelic footballer) as he only represented Kerry as a minor
Brian Murphy (1960s Gaelic footballer) Brian Murphy (Cork Gaelic footballer, born 19??) Article is not clear about his DOB
Brendan Cummins (GAA player) Brendan Cummins (Tipperary sportsperson) DAB Brendan Cummins (Cork hurler). Also redirects from Brendan Cummins (Tipperary hurler) and Brendan Cummins (Tipperary Gaelic footballer)
Tom Collins (dual player) Tom Collins (Gaelic footballer) DAB Tom Collins (athlete), born in Ireland, county not specified. Also redirect from Tom Collins (hurler), only won junior title in hurling.
Stephen Murphy (dual player) Stephen Murphy (Wexford sportsperson) DAB Stephen Murphy (hurler) from Kerry, who should be moved to Stephen Murphy (Kerry hurler), with Stephen Murphy (hurler) a {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} to Stephen Murphy
Billy O'Neill (dual player) Billy O'Neill (Gaelic footballer) or Billy O'Neill (Galway sportsperson) or Billy O'Neill (Galway and Cork sportsperson) DAB Billy O'Neill (footballer) (which should move to Billy O'Neill (association footballer)). Article doesn't give enough info to say whether hurling and Cork are prominent enough to influence the title, or should be relegated to redirects. Billy O'Neill (hurler) should be a redirect, with hatnotes to and from Willie O'Neill (hurler).
Cahir Healy (dual player) Cahir Healy (sportsperson) or Cahir Healy (Gaelic footballer) DAB Cahir Healy, who is not a sportsperson. Not sure his hurling accomplishments merit influencing the article title. Cahir Healy (hurler) should redirect.
Steven O'Brien (dual player) Steven O'Brien (Tipperary sportsperson) DAB Steven O'Brien (Cork Gaelic footballer) and Stephen O'Brien (Kerry footballer) (which should move to Stephen O'Brien (Kerry Gaelic footballer)).
David O'Callaghan (dual player) David O'Callaghan (Dublin sportsperson) DAB David O'Callaghan (Kerry Gaelic footballer). David O'Callaghan (hurler) and David O'Callaghan (Dublin Gaelic footballer) should redirect
Frank Burke (dual player) Frank Burke (Dublin sportsperson) DAB Frank Burke (hurler) (which should move to Frank Burke (Galway hurler)). Frank Burke (Gaelic footballer) should redirect
Jim Young (dual player) Jim Young (Gaelic football and hurling) DAB Jim Young (St. Finbarr's hurler), both from Cork. Jim Young (Gaelic footballer) should redirect, and Jim Young (footballer) should be moved to Jim Young (Australian rules footballer).
Tom Irwin (dual player) Tom Irwin (Irish sportsperson) DAB Tommy Irwin, of baseball. Tom Irwin (Gaelic footballer) and Tom Irwin (hurler) should redirect.