User:PhilipR/CA2004
Discussion I was having about Copa America here. I'm trying to find which club a typical national side's players played at over the summer 2004, during the Copa America. ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN FINDING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT KIND OF SQUADS PLAY IN THE CA IS WELCOME TO EDIT THIS IN GOOD FAITH.
Typical group oppponents
[edit]Source: http://www.rsssf.com/tables/2004safull.html - Courtesy Martín Tabeira and RSSSF .
Let's use Costa Rica's group for analysis.
Paraguay
[edit]Lineup vs. CRC:
PAR: D.Barreto - Martínez, de Vaca (62 Benítez), Gamarra (c), Torres - Cristaldo,
Paredes, E.Barreto, Brítez (46 Dos Santos) - Figueredo (67 Bareiro), Haedo
Roster:
1 Justo VILLAR Libertad 2 Emilio MARTÍNEZ Libertad 3 Julio César MANZUR Guaraní 4 Carlos Alberto GAMARRA Internazionale (ITA) 5 José DEVACA Cerro Porteño 6 Jorge Orlando BRÍTEZ Olimpia 7 Dante Rafael LÓPEZ Córdoba (ESP) 8 Edgar BARRETO NEC Nimega (HOL) 9 Fredy José BAREIRO Libertad
10 Diego FIGUEREDO Olimpia 11 Julio GONZÁLEZ Ferreira Nacional 12 Diego BARRETO Cerro Porteño 13 Carlos Humberto PAREDES Reggina (ITA) 14 Ernesto Rubén CRISTALDO Cerro Porteño 15 Pedro Juan BENÍTEZ Cerro Porteño 16 David VILLALBA Olimpia 17 Celso ESQUIVEL San Lorenzo (ARG) 18 Derlis Aníbal GONZÁLEZ 12 de Octubre 19 Nelson Antonio HAEDO Werder Bremen (GER) 20 Julio Daniel DOS SANTOS Cerro Porteño 21 Aureliano TORRES Guaraní 22 Fabio ESCOBAR Nacional Coach: Carlos JARA SAGUIER
Brasil
[edit]BRA: Júlio César - Mancini, Juan, Luisão, Gustavo Nery - Kléberson (58 Diego), Renato, Edu (66 Dudú), Alex (c) - Adriano, Luís Fabiano (58 Vágner Love)
1 JÚLIO CÉSAR Soares de Espíndola Flamengo 2 MANCINI - Alessandro Amantín Roma (ITA) 3 LUISÃO - Luis A. da Silva Benfica (POR) 4 JUAN Silveira do Santos Bayer Leverkusen (GER) 5 RENATO Dirnei Florencio Santos 6 GUSTAVO NERY de Sá da Silva São Paulo
7 ADRIANO Leite Ribeiro Internazionale (ITA)
8 Juan KLÉBERSON Pereira Manchester United (ENG) 9 LuÍS FABIANO Clemente São Paulo
10 ALEX - Alessandro de Souza Cruzeiro 11 EDÚ - Eduardo César Daude Arsenal (ENG) 12 FÁBIO Denilson Lopes Maciel Vasco da Gama 13 MAICON Douglas Sisenando Mónaco (FRA) 14 Marcelo José BORDON Stuttgart (GER) 15 CRIS - Cristiano Marques Gomes Cruzeiro 16 DUDÚ - Alessandro de Souza Kashiwa Reysol (JAP) 17 ADRIANO CORREIA Claro Coritiba 18 JÚLIO César BAPTISTA Sevilla (ESP) 19 DIEGO Ribas de Cunha Santos 20 FELIPE Jorge Loureiro Flamengo 21 RICARDO OLIVEIRA Valencia (ESP) 22 VÁGNER LOVE - V. Silva de Souza Palmeiras Coach: Carlos Alberto PARREIRA
Next WCQ lineup (see below): BRA: 1-Julio Cesar; 2-Belletti, 4-Roque Junior, 3-Edmilson, 6-Roberto
Carlos; 5-Juninho Pernambucano (15-Renato 60), 8-Gilberto Silva,
11-Edu (18-Robinho 74), 10-Ronaldinho (17-Alex 60); 7-Adriano,
9-Ronaldo.
Verdict: About as I expected, Brasil brought an A-/B+ side that had a few players they used in the next qualifier, most obviously Adriano. In general their CA squad had good European participation, apparently including several Euro-based second-stringers trying to make it into the WCQ A-squad.
Chile
[edit]CHI: Varas - I.Fuentes, Olarra (c), L.Fuentes, Pérez (71 Aros) - Acuña (46 Meléndez), Jiménez, Valenzuela, Millar (71 Mirosevic) - Mancilla, S.González
1 Claudio Andrés BRAVO Colo Colo 2 Cristian Andrés ÁLVAREZ Universidad Católica 3 Luis Alberto FUENTES Cobreloa 4 Rodrigo Antonio PÉREZ Cobreloa 5 Miguel Mauricio RAMÍREZ Colo Colo 6 Clarence ACUÑA Rosario Central (ARG) 7 Rodrigo VALENZUELA América (MEX) 8 Rodrigo Javier MILLAR Huachipato 9 Sebastián Ignacio GONZÁLEZ Atlante (MEX)
10 Luis Antonio JIMÉNEZ Ternana (ITA) 11 Mark Dennis GONZÁLEZ Universidad Católica 12 Alex Fabián VARAS Santiago Wanderers 13 Ismael Ignacio FUENTES Rangers 14 Moisés Fermín VILLARROEL Colo Colo 15 Héctor Raúl MANCILLA Huachipato 16 Jonathan Josué CISTERNAS Cobreloa 17 Milovan MIROSEVIC Racing Club (ARG) 18 Rodrigo MELÉNDEZ Quilmes (ARG) 19 Rafael OLARRA Independiente (ARG) 20 Mauricio Fernando AROS Huachipato 21 Luis Pedro FIGUEROA Universidad de Concepción 22 Patricio Sebastián GALAZ Cobreloa Coach: Juvenal OLMOS
Quarterfinals: Colombia
[edit]Moving on with our imaginary following in the footsteps of Costa Rica, if the US had indeed gotten out of its group stage, like the Ticos, it might have played Colombia as they did.
COL: Henao (c) - Palacio, Orozco, González, Victoria - Díaz, Aguilar, Patiño (83 Viáfara), Murillo (87 Ferreira) - Moreno, Herrera (72 Perea)
1 Juan Carlos HENAO Once Caldas
2 Andrés Felipe GONZÁLEZ América (Cali)
3 Jaime CASTRILLÓN Independiente Medellín
4 Jesús Brahaman SINISTERRA Arminia Bielefeld (GER)
5 Andrés Felipe OROZCO Racing Club (ARG)
6 Oscar DÍAZ Deportivo Cali
7 Mahler Tressor MORENO Deportivo Cali
8 David Arturo FERREIRA América (Cali)
9 Sergio Darío HERRERA América (Cali)
10 Neider Yesid MORANTES Independiente Medellín
11 Elkin Antonio MURILLO LDU Quito (ECU)
12 Breiner CASTILLO Deportivo Cali
13 Arley DINAS Deportes Tolima
14 Edixon PEREA Atlético Nacional
15 Jhon Eduis VIÁFARA Once Caldas
16 Edwin CONGO Levante (ESP)
17 Jairo PATIÑO Newell’s Old Boys (ARG)
18 Abel Enrique AGUILAR Deportivo Cali
19 José Antonio AMAYA Atlético Júnior
20 Gustavo Andrés VICTORIA Rise Sport (TUR)
21 Haider Guillermo PALACIO Napoli (ITA)
22 Gonzalo MARTÍNEZ Atlético Júnior
But what about CRC themselves?
[edit]1 Víctor Andrey BOLÍVAR Liberia 2 Michael UMAÑA Herediano 3 Luis Antonio MARÍN Alajuelense 4 Alexander CASTRO Alajuelense 5 Whayne WILSON Cartaginés 6 Christian Alberto OVIEDO Herediano 7 Alonso SOLÍS Saprissa 8 Dany Alberto FONSECA Cartaginés 9 Álvaro Alberto SABORÍO Saprissa
10 Wálter CENTENO AEK (GRE) 11 Ronald GÓMEZ Irapuato (MEX) 12 Leonardo GONZÁLEZ Herediano 13 Carlos HERNÁNDEZ Alajuelense 14 Cristian BADILLA Herediano 15 Júnior Enrique DÍAZ Herediano 16 Try Anthony BENNETT Herediano 17 Steven José BRYCE Alajuelense 18 José Francisco PORRAS Saprissa 19 Mauricio WRIGHT AEK (GRE) 20 Douglas Esteban SEQUEIRA Saprissa 21 Andy Francisco HERRÓN Herediano 22 Ricardo GONZÁLEZ Alajuelense
Reference: WCQ
[edit]These are the starting XI for the first WCQ after CA 2004, also from RSSSF.
In Asuncion (De los Defensores del Chaco Stadium)
Paraguay 1 (Carlos Gamarra 52)
Venezuela 0
HT: 0-0. Att: 30,000. Ref: Gustavo Mendez (Uruguay).
PAR: 1-Justo Villar; 2-Pedro Sarabia, 3-Julio Cesar Caceres, 4-Carlos
Gamarra (15-Jorge Mansur 84), 14-Paulo da Silva; 13-Carlos Paredes,
16-Julio Enciso, 10-Diego Gavilan (8-Edgar Barreto 78), 23-Nelson
Cuevas; 20-Jose Cardozo (7-Cesar Ramirez 58), 24-Roque Santa Cruz.
VEN: 1-Gilberto Angelucci; 2-Luis Vallenilla, 3-Jose Manuel Rey,
6-Alejandro Cichero, 17-Jorge Rojas; 14-Leopoldo Jimenez, 8-Luis
Vera, 11-Richardo Paez (9-Alexander Rondon 68), 10-Gabriel
Urdaneta (20-Hector Gonzalez 71); 18-Juan Arango, 7-Rafael
Castellin (26-Alexander Moreno 77).
In Santiago (Nacional Stadium) Chile 0 Colombia 0 Att: 62,523. Ref: Wilson de Souza Mendonca (Brazil). CHI: 1-Nelson Tapia; 14-Moises Villaroel, 22-Luis Fuentes, 19-Rafael
Olarra, 4-Rodrigo Perez; 3-Claudio Maldonado, 6-Jorge Acuna,
17-Milovan Mirosevic (25-Rodrigo Tello 60), 8-David Pizarro
(7-Rodrigo Valenzuela 60); 9-Reinaldo Navia (11-Marcelo Salas 46),
15-Mauricio Pinilla.
Sent offs: Claudio Maldonado 20, Rodrigo Perez 71. COL: 1-Miguel Calero; 14-Luis Amaranto Perea, 2-Ivan Ramiro Cordoba,
3-Mario Yepes, 20-Gerardo Bedoya; 6-Fabian Vargas, 15-John
Viafara, 8-Frankie Oviedo (21-Edixon Perea 87), 7-Giovanny
Hernandez (17-Jairo Patino 56); 18-Jairo Castillo, 23-Leider
Preciado (11-Elkin Murillo 65).
Sent offs: John Viafara 17, Jairo Patino 71.
In Montevideo (Centenario Stadium) Uruguay 1 (Carlos Bueno 57) Ecuador 0 HT: 0-0. Att: 28,000. Ref: Gilberto Hidalgo (Peru). URU: 1-Sebastian Viera; 2-Joe Bizera, 4-Paolo Montero, 3-Dario
Rodriguez; 17-Carlos Diogo, 5-Marcelo Sosa, 16-Javier Delgado,
10-Alvaro Recoba (15-Diego Perez 78), 11-Cristian Rodriguez
(13-Fabian Estoyanoff 57); 9-Dario Silva (22-Vicente Sanchez 25),
20-Carlos Bueno.
ECU: 1-Edwin Villafuerte; 4-Ulises de la Cruz, 3-Ivan Hurtado,
17-Giovanny Espinoza, 18-Neicer Reasco; 15-Marlon Ayovi,
5-Leonardo Soledispa (7-Carlos Quinonez 70), 8-Edison Mendez,
10-Walter Ayovi (16-Antonio Valencia 75); 14-Johnny Baldeon
(11-Agustin Delgado 60), 9-Carlos Tenorio.
In Sao Paulo (Cicero Pompeu de Toled Stadium) Brazil 3 (Ronaldo 1, Ronaldinho 13pen, Adriano 44) Bolivia 1 (Luis Cristaldo 49) HT: 3-0. Att: 60,000. Ref: Hector Baldassi (Argentina). BRA: 1-Julio Cesar; 2-Belletti, 4-Roque Junior, 3-Edmilson, 6-Roberto
Carlos; 5-Juninho Pernambucano (15-Renato 60), 8-Gilberto Silva,
11-Edu (18-Robinho 74), 10-Ronaldinho (17-Alex 60); 7-Adriano,
9-Ronaldo.
BOL: 21-Leo Fernandez; 5-Oscar Sanchez, 2-Juan Manuel Pena, 16-Ronald
Raldes, 4-Lorgio Alvarez; 17-Luis Gatti Ribeiro (22-Ronald Arana
46), 7-Luis Cristaldo, 15-Limbert Pizarro, 14-Percy Colque
(8-Ruben Tufino 46), 10-Limberg Gutierrez (9-Milton Coimbra 76);
20-Joaquin Botero.