User:Ted Newsom/WLR keep reasons

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The reviewer left the following comment about this submission: This submission doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics. Please provide more information on why this musical artist or musical recording is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia, and support it by citing published sources that are reliable and independent.


I have adjusted the introduction to reflect the trenchant aspect to Whole Lotta Rosies, i.e., that it started a music trend in Southern California which has now been copied again and again: an all-girl tribute band playing cover versions of all-male heavy metal rock.

I'd offer that Whole Lotta Rosies classifies as as "notable" based on Wikipedia's following criteria:

A musician or ensemble ... may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria:

1.Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1]

I think Rock City News (http://www.rockcitynews.com/) would be considered reliable and independent. It's been around since 1983 in print and/or online format, the longest-lived rock publication in the LA area.

Likewise, I'd suggest that Hustler Magazine (whether or not one appreciates the pictorial content) is a valid souce of reportorial information.

Los Angeles Magzine, which is also cited, is scarcely some fly-by-night pamphlet.

The group was also cited in the June 2002 issue of PLAYBOY in the article "Greatest Tributes in Rock."

I included the more-obscure South Korean English-language newspaper MORNING CALM WEEKLY citation to verify that WLR had indeed appeared overseas and was written up in more than just a "now playing" notice.


4.Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.[note 4]

Rosies received local reviews in military newspapers on their tours of Germany, Sweden, Sarejevo & Bosnia (not available) and Okinawa. I only have access to the South Korea newspaper, which is cited as an example.


6.Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles.

Since at least two of the band members (Melanie Sisneros & Jenny Warren) qualify as "independently notable musicians" by virtue of the fact that they are in fact listed on their own Wikipedia pages, I'd say this is another criterion met.


7.Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

Given that there were no "all-girl hard rock tribute bands" in L.A. before Whole Lotta Rosies, and there are a bunch now, including two which stem directly from ex-Rosies band mambers (Girls Got Rythmn, and ThundHerStruck), I'd say this is another qualification.


8.Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.

"Major" is certainly a key factor, but given that they are essentially an LA-based band and the LA-based music magazine Rock City News awarded the band “Most Outstanding Female Tribute Band” three years in a row, I think that's "major" within the parameters of the LA rock scene.


10.Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc.

Again, it depends on the definition of "notable." The movie in which the band appeared prominently, "Unbeatable Harold," had some major stars like Dylan McDermott of THE PRACTICE, Henry Winkler, Gladys Knight and Charles Durning... and, heck, it even has its own WIkipedia entry.