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0:00:00 - 0:09:40 Introduction
[edit]- G. Massey once said: "They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, Rather than truth as the authority"
- G. Massey is an Egyptologist.
0:09:40 - 0:37:00 Part I
[edit]0:09:40 - 0:14:40 First five minutes
[edit]- "As far back as 10,000 BC history is abundant with carvings and writings reflecting people's respect and adoration for [the sun]."
- The 12 constellations represented places of travel for god's sun.
- Horus "is the sun god of Egypt of around 3000 BC."
- Horus "is the sun anthropomorphized."
- Horus' "life is a series of allegorical myths involving the sun's movement in the sky."
- Horus represent light, and his enemy "Set" represented darkness or night.
- Horus was born on December 25.
- Horus was born of a virgin.
- Three kings followed a star in the east to find Horus' birthplace.
- Horus began to teach at the age of 12.
- Horus was baptized at the age of 30.
- Horus traveled about with 12 disciples
- Horus and his disciples performed miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water.
- Horus was know by these names:
- "The truth"
- "The light"
- "God's anointed sun"
- "The good shepherd"
- "The lamb of god"
- After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for 3 days, and then resurrected
- Attis (Greece 1200 BC) was:
- born of a virgin
- born on December 25
- crucified, placed in a tomb for 3 days, and then resurrected
- Krishna (India 900 BC) was:
- born of a virgin
- star in the east signaled birth
- performed miracles with his disciples
- was resurrected
- Dionysus (Greece 500 BC) was:
- born of a virgin
- born on December 25
- was resurrected
- a traveling teacher who performed miracles, including turning water into wine
- referred to as:
- "the king of kings,"
- "God's only begotten sun"
- "The alpha and Omega"
0:14:40 - 0:20:00 Second five minutes
[edit]- Mithra (Persia 1200 BC)
- born of a virgin
- born on December 25
- had 12 Disciples
- performed miracles
- was dead for 3 days and then was resurrected.
- referred to as "the truth" and "the light"
- followers worshiped on "Sunday"
- Saviors from different periods and all around the world which subscribe to these general characteristics:
- virgin birth on December 25
- death and then resurrected after 3 days
- 12 disciples or followers
- (The saviors claimed to have these characteristics are listed on the screen as:)
- Chrishna of Hindostan
- Budha Sakia of India
- Salivahana of Bermuda
- Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt
- Odin of the Scandinavians
- Crite of Chaldea
- Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia
- Baal and Taut, "the only Begotten of God," of Phoenecia
- Indra of Tibet
- Bali of Afghanistan
- Jao of Nepal
- Wittoba of the Bilingonese
- Thammuz of Syria
- Atys of Phrygia
- Xamolxis of Thrace
- Zoar of the Bonzes
- Adad of Assyria
- Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam
- Alcides of Thebes
- Mikado of the Sintoos
- Beddru of Japan
- Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids
- Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls
- Cadmus of Greece
- Hil and Feta of the Mandaites
- Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico
- Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
- Ischy of the island of Formosa.
- Divine Teacher of Plato
- Holy One of Xaca
- Fohi and Tien of China
- Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
- Ixion and Quirinus of Rome.
- Prometheus of Caucasus.
- Jesus Christ
- born of the Virgin Mary on December 25 in Bethlehem
- birth was announced by a star in the east
- three kings or magi followed the star to locate and adorn the New Savior
- was a teacher at the age of 12
- was baptized at the age of 30
- had 12 disciples
- traveled around with his disciples performing miracles such as healing the sick, walking on water, and raising the dead.
- was known as
- The King of Kings
- The Son of God
- The Light of the World
- The Alpha and Omega
- The Lamb of God
- after being betrayed by Judas and sold for 30 pieces of silver, he was crucified.
- placed in a tomb for 3 days and then resurrected.
- The birth sequence (three kings following bright star in the east) is because the three stars called "the three kings" line up with the star "sirius" and on Dec 24 point at the place on the horizon where the sun will rise. (The three kings, Sirius, and the sunrise are collinear on December 25)
- The virgin Mary (or Myrra or Maya) represents Virgo, which is also known as Virgo the Virgin, and is represented by a modified letter M.
- Virgo is also known as the "house of bread" which represents harvest in the fall.
- Bethlehem literally translated means "house of bread"
- Right after the winter solstice, the sun appears to rise in the same spot for three days before beginning to head north again.
0:20:00 - 0:25:20 Third five minutes
[edit]- The shape of the Celtic cross is actually a pagan spiritual symbol, which is an adaptation of the cross of the zodiac.
- John 9:5 reads: "As long as I am in the world I am the light of the world."
- Matt 28:6 reads: "And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead."
- John 14:3 reads: "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you."
- 2 Cor 4:6 reads: "To give the light of knowledge of the glory of god."
- Rom 13:12 reads: "Let us cast off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light."
- John 3:3 reads: "Verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom."
- Mark 13:26 reads: "Thay shall see the son coming in the clouds."
- John 3:13 reads: "But he that came down from heaven, even the son which is in heaven"
- John 19:5 reads: "Then came Jesus forth, wearing a crown of thorns."
- The crown of thorns represents sun-rays.
- Matt 28:20 reads: "I am with you always to the very end of the age."
- Matt 12:32 reads: "Either in this age or the age to come."
- Matt 13:39 reads: "The harvest is the end of the age."
- Matt 24:3 reads: "Sign of your coming and the end of the age."
- Luke 18:30 reads: "In this age and the age to come"
- Corinthians 3 reads: "Wise by the standards of this age"
- Corinthians 10 reads: "On whom the forfillment of the ages has come."
- Ephesians 1 reads: "Not only in the present age but the age to come"
- Ephesians 21 reads: "In order that in the coming ages"
- Hebrews 6 reads: "And the powers of the coming age"
- Hebrews 9 reads: "He has appeared once and for all at the end of the ages"
- Revelation 15 reads: "King of the ages"
- Job 8:8 reads: "Of the former age"
- The precession of the equinoxes was recognized by the ancient Egyptians and cultures before them.
- The precession of the equinoxes is that approximately every 2,150 years, the sun rise on the morning of the spring equinox would occur at a different sign of the zodiac.
- Ancient societies referred to every 2,150-year period as an age.
- From 4,300 BC to 2,150 BC was the age of Taurus, the bull.
- From 2,150 BC to 1 AD was the age of Aries, the ram.
- From 1 AD to 2,150 AD is the age of Pisces, the two fish.
- From 2,150 AD to 4,300 AD will be the age of Aquarius.
- The bible reflects a symbolic movement through three ages while foreshadowing a fourth.
- When Moses comes down the mountain, he is upset to see his people worshiping a golden bull calf.
- Moses shattered the stone tablets and instructed his people to kill each other in order to purify themselves.
- Exodus 32 reads: "Go in and out from gate to gate and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor..."
- The golden bull is Taurus the bull.
- Moses represents the new age of Aries the ram.
- Aries the ram is why Jews today still blow the ram's horn.
- Mithra kills the bull for the same reason (because the bull is Taurus).
- Matt 14:17 reads: "We only have five loaves of bread and 2 fish"
- The bible reads (no verse # given): "Jesus saw two brothers. They were casting a net, for they were fishermen."
- The "Jesus fish" that people put on their cars is "a pagan astrological symbolism for the sun's kingdom during the age of Pisces."
- Jesus's assumed birth date (4 BCE) is essentially the start of the age of Pisces (1 AD).
- Luke 22:10 reads: "Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you bearing a pitcher of water...Follow him into the house where he entereth in."
- The man bearing the pitcher of water is Aquarius.
- Aquarius follows Pisces (represented by Jesus) in the procession of the equinoxes.
- "All that Jesus is saying is that after the age of Pisces will come the age of Aquarius."
0:25:20 - 0:30:00 Fourth five minutes
[edit]- "The book of revelations aside, the main source of [the idea of the end of the world] comes from Matt 28:20"
- Matt 28:20 is mistranslated in the King James version: "I will be with you even to the end of the world."
- The correct translation is: "I will be with you even to the end of the age."
- (Since the word being used is Aeon, which means age).
- Nearly 100,000,000 people in America believe that the end of the world is coming.
- Inscribed about about 3,500 years ago at the palace of Luxor are images of the annunciation, immaculate conception, birth, and adoration of Horus.
- There are over 200 cited claims of the Great Flood in different places and times.
- One of these is the epic of Gilgamesh, written in 2600 BC.
- great flood commanded by god
- caused by man's sins
- intended for all mankind
- ordered to build a boat
- one door on boat
- at least one window
- outside coating is pitch
- human passengers were family members
- all kinds of land animals
- means of flood was heavy rain
- release of birds (dove) to find land
- ark landing spot was mountains
- sacrifice after flood
- blessed after flood
- Moses as a baby was placed in a reed basket and set a drift in a river in order to avoid infanticide.
- later rescued by a daughter of royalty and raised by her as a prince.
- Sargon (2250 BC) as a baby was placed in a reed basket and set a drift in a river in order to avoid infanticide.
- rescued and raised by a royal midwife
- "The idea of a law being passed from God to profit, up on a mountain is an old motif."
- "In India, Manou is the great law giver."
- "In Crete, Minos climbed mount Dicta, where Zeus gave him the sacred laws."
- Mises of Egypt "carried stone tablets, and upon them the laws of God were written."
- The 10 Commandments are taken from spell 125 in the Egyptian book of the dead.
- Book of the dead says:
- I have not stolen
- I have not killed
- I have not told lies
- 10 Commandments say:
- Thou shall not steal
- Thou shall not kill
- Thou shall not bear false witness
- These are all aspects of Egyptian ideas long predating Christianity and Judaism:
- Baptism
- Afterlife
- Final Judgment
- Virgin Birth
- Death & Resurrection
- Crucifixion
- The Ark of the Covenant
- Circumcision
- Saviors
- Holy Communion
- Great Flood
- Easter
- Christmas
- Passover
0:30:00 - 0:35:00 Fifty five minutes
[edit]- Justin Martyr (100-165 AD)...
- ...wrote: "When we say that he, Jesus Christ, our teacher, was produced without sexual union, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding the sons of [the god] Jupiter."
- While the screen shows the text above, the narrator reads it in a slightly different way, saying "...what you believe regarding those who you esteem sons of Jupiter"
- The old-testament Joseph was a prototype for Jesus:
- Joseph (old-testament):
- Miracle birth
- of 12 brothers
- was sold for 20 pieces of silver
- "Judah" suggests the sale of Joseph
- Began work at the age of 30
- Jesus (new-testament):
- Miracle birth
- had 12 disciples
- was sold for 30 pieces of silver
- "Judas" suggests the sale of Jesus
- Began work at the age of 30
- Historians that lived in or around the Mediterranean during or shortly after Jesus Christ, but who made no mention of him:
- Aulus Persius (60)
- Columella (1st cent.)
- Dio Chrysostom (40-112CE)
- Justus of Tiberius (80 CE)
- Livy (59 BC-17CE)
- Marcus Annaeus Lucanus (63CE)
- Lucius Florus (1st,2nd CE)
- Petronius (d. 66CE)
- Phaedrus (15BC-50 CE)
- Philo Judeaus (20BC-50CE)
- Phlegon (1st cent.)
- Pliny the Elder (23?-69CE)
- Plutarch (46-119CE)
- Pomponius Mela (40CE)
- Quintus Curtius Rufus (1st cent.)
- Quintilian (35-100CE)
- Seneca the Younger (4BC-65CE)
- Silius Italicus (25-101CE)
- Caecilius Statius (1st cent.)
- Theon of Smyrna (70-135CE)
- Gaius Valerius Flaccus (1st cent.)
- Valerius Maximus (20CE)
- Four historians are commonly sighted to support the historical Jesus.
- The first three only mention the word "Christ," and are only a couple sentence long at best.
- "Christ" is a title meaning "The anointed one," and is not a name.
- The three historians who only mention the word "Christ" are:
- The fourth historian is Josephus, "and this source has been proven to be a forgery for hundreds of years."
- Thomas Paine (1737 - 1809) once said: "The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally payed to the sun."
- By 325 AD in Rome, Emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea.
- "It was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian doctrine was established."
0:35:00 - 0:37:00 Last two minutes
[edit]Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899) once said: "Religion can never reform mankind because religion is slavery."
0:37:00 - 1:11:05 Part II
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Some of the gods wrongly listed
[edit]lol. I guess I said it. Some of the gods listed in this film were wrongly listed. Especially those of the mesoamerican region. But for the most part the list most of the right gods.