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'''''Note: If you'd prefer, I can be reached via email [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Go_Phightins! here]. Thanks--[[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:51, 24 October 2012 (UTC)''''' |
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== NAC's == |
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Just wondering, how exactly do you go about finding XfD's that you close as NAC's? Do you just search old ones, and is there a page/category for old ones that need closing? What else should I know before trying that? Thanks! [[User:gwickwire|gwickwire]] | [[User_talk:gwickwire|Leave a message]] 05:16, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:On my way to bed, but I'll just quickly say that I just look through the daily logs of AfDs and find ones where the consensus is clearly keep or speedy keep and close it as such. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 05:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::Coinkidinkally (if that's a word) I was too. So, if you want to wait until tomorrow to even reply to this feel free. [[User:gwickwire|gwickwire]] | [[User_talk:gwickwire|Leave a message]] 05:20, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:::{{tps}} I don't know about Go! but, I use {{tl|Deletion debates}} and click on '''''closing''''' from the '''Articles (''today, all, closing'')'''. Do read [[WP:NAC]] properly before performing any closure and yes, do use [[User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js|this amazing script]] which helps to close the discussions and help relisting the debates with a single click (it is so fast, trust me, I've closed 200+ AfDs). '''''[[User:TheSpecialUser|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;color:black;background:white">TheSpecialUser</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TheSpecialUser|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">TSU</span>]]</sup>''''' 08:23, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::::Just installed that script. Whoa! That's cool. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 14:36, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Well done, you're through == |
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Thanks. I learned quite a bit. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 16:12, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Some day, maybe I'll start up an adoption course of my own. <small> Though I'd have to sub-contract the templates lesson to you {{smiley}} </small> [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 16:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Fine, I like ambition. And I'm happy you learned some. Although, actually I sort of nicked the lessons off [[User:Worm That Turned|Worm That Turned]] and transferred them to my userspace - but I'm sure he won't mind. Incidentally, he's running in this year's ArbCom election which you can vote in tomorrow. <font color="#151B8D">'''[[User:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:cambria; font-size:10pt; color:#151B8D">Rcsprinter</span>]]''' [[User talk:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:calibri; font-size:8pt; color:#488AC7">(rap)</span>]]</font> <small>@</small> 17:57, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::I fully plan on voting for him. I originally asked him if he would adopt me; he was busy but recommended you and Ryan Vesey, who essentially run his course. Thanks again, [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 18:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Well said. == |
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Thank you. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 19:19, 24 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== [[Warrior xmen]] == |
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Hello! I noticed you flagged Warrior xmen for Speedy Deletion under G2. However, the article doesn't seem to qualify under G2 since the page is about a username, and doesn't seem like test edits. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:#008B8B">Vacation</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:#FF8C00">nine</span>]]</sup> 03:02, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Well, I don't know. It should definitely be speedily deleted, but there's really no criterion that it meets. It seems to sort of be a test edit; maybe no context? [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 03:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Adoption == |
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Yes, I did hope to be adopted by someone. I have been less active as of late due to school commitments, but I still want to learn how to contribute in a way with less potential to produce a giant mess. My first edit was about a year ago as an IP, but I have never really become truly active. I have always contributed by looking at the syntax of another thing that I thought was what I wanted to do, and then mimicking it, which seems...disaster prone. It seems like there is a lot of jargon thrown around, and while I'm starting to get the hang of it, I still can't get through something like an AN/I discussion without looking at about three separate linked esssays.... I have created an article, a BLP chess grandmaster stub [[Throstur Thorhallsson]] (before I knew that there were separate rules for BLP's), and translated a few articles to [[simple:]]. I am thinking that wikipedia is very close to done, and so am mostly focusing what time I do have in the project in simple. (I have the same username over there.) I am hoping to learn what exactly I should be doing, and the correct way to do things around here. Thanks for volunteering to adopt me! [[User:Tazerdadog|Tazerdadog]] ([[User talk:Tazerdadog|talk]]) 06:12, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Outstanding! Well, I think the best way to do this is to run you through a series of lessons that cover all the basics of Wikipedia. I will post a link to the first one as soon as I get it up, which will probably be some time this afternoon (I'm on the Eastern Time Zone, so when I say some time this afternoon, that's in about six hours). See you there. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 13:15, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::Well, I had a few more minutes than I thought, so lesson one is up. Your adoption headquarters is located [[User:Go Phightins!/Adopt/Tazerdadog|here]]. Post any questions you have relating to the specific lesson in the questions section of the lesson, and about the adoption in general on the adoption page's talk page. Thanks, and let's get started! [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 13:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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I have read it, and posted my response in a new section under the lesson.[[User:Tazerdadog|Tazerdadog]] ([[User talk:Tazerdadog|talk]]) 18:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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I found the test, and finished it. You hid it well. [[User:Tazerdadog|Tazerdadog]] ([[User talk:Tazerdadog|talk]]) 18:54, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:All right. In the future, let me post the tests on your adoption page...I want to keep blank copies of the test where I had them so I can have them for future users. I wasn't quite finished with writing questions, so I'll post a few more on your adoption page. Thanks. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 19:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::I have posted the rest of the test and will begin writing the next lesson. You really jumped in! Great work on those first few answers! [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 19:15, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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I have finished the test.[[User:Tazerdadog|Tazerdadog]] ([[User talk:Tazerdadog|talk]]) 20:28, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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I'll take a look. Thanks. In the interim, I'll post the next lesson for you to read over. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annabel Lee (musician)]] == |
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Hey Go! Can you please revert your closure of the AfD and let an admin perform the closure. Nomination itself is a '''delete''' vote so there exist one delete vote with no support whatsoever for keeping the article. Such articles usually get [[WP:SOFTDELETE|Softly deleted]]. Thanks! '''''[[User:TheSpecialUser|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;color:black;background:white">TheSpecialUser</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TheSpecialUser|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">TSU</span>]]</sup>''''' 01:58, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Oh, based on my reading of [[WP:NAC]] as the second clause in appropriate closures, I thought closing it as no consensus when there was little or no participation was acceptable. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 02:00, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::Yes I agree. But in past I've seen many discussions where an admin usually deletes the article (never really saw such debates getting closed as NC). I'm too busy to search such discussions out so its okay to leave it like this. It is always open to a re-nom and I'll go for it after a month or some. Thanks! '''''[[User:TheSpecialUser|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;color:black;background:white">TheSpecialUser</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TheSpecialUser|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">TSU</span>]]</sup>''''' 02:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Okay...thanks for bringing it to my attention. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 02:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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The no consensus close was correct, but I think you should have closed it with [[WP:NPASR|no prejudice against speedy renomination]] as there were no comments or !votes in this debate. This means that anyone can re-nominate this article at any time. →<font face="Segoe Script">[[User:Bmusician|<font color="#F52887">B</font>]][[User talk:Bmusician|<font color="#348017">music</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Bmusician|<font color="#3BB9FF">ian</font>]]</font> 04:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:{{tps}} Is there any policy that would otherwise prevent anyone from starting another AfD right away? [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout'''''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:#FF8C00">C]])</small> 04:59, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::{{done}} I added NPASR. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 11:38, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Question == |
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How am I editing in a disruptive way? I have provided a reliable link and this is accurate information ([[User:REfreakk5555|REfreakk5555]] ([[User talk:REfreakk5555|talk]]) 02:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)) |
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:Hi, and I apologize for the poor choice of template. Basically, what I was trying to say was that your edits to the Petraeus article were not from a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]] and violated the [[WP:BLP|policy on biographies of living persons]]. If you have any additional questions on how to edit constructively, please don't hesitate to let me know. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 02:50, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Harrias == |
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{{Tb|Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Harrias|Neutral|ts=<span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- [[User:Trevj#top|Trevj]]</span> ([[User talk:Trevj#top|talk]]) 13:34, 28 November 2012 (UTC)}} |
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== Request; please immediately stop closing any AfD == |
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Hi Phigtins, again, please don't take this otherwise. May I please request you to not close or relist AfDs unless you gain experience in seeing how they're actually closed/relisted? Please allow an administrator to handle borderline closure or relisting of discussions. What you did [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Atul_Mongia|here]], [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tickety_toc|here]], [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Student_Life_in_IIT_Kharagpur|here]], [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Annabel_Lee_(musician)|here]], [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/101_Philosophy_Problems|here]], [[Wikipedia:Articles_for deletion/Sigma Thêta_Pi|here]] are clearly problematic. And why did you close [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WBBA]] before seven days? Please immediately stop closing any AfD. Best regards.[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''<sup>Message</sup>''']] 17:50, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Can you explain the problems that you see Wifione? I followed a few of your links, but didn't see anything egregious. — Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]] · [[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 18:11, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::Sure. In order listed above. First one might have been deleted by an admin. Second one should have been closed by an admin, given there were two ''keep'' !votes and one nom's delete !vote, despite there being apparent strength in the ''keep'' !vote. Third one could have been deleted by an administrator instead of getting relisted. Fourth one should have gone to an admin, who may have deleted the article. Fifth one again should have been relisted. Sixth one should have definitely been closed by an admin because of the borderline nature of ''keep'' !voters. The reason I request Go_Phigtins to not close AfDs is because there are simply too many of them which are borderline and are being closed/relisted en masse by him. My request is not intended to put him down; far from it, I'd appreciate it if Go handles only the sparklingly clear cases of ''keep'' closures than those that are borderline and could go either way.[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''<sup>Message</sup>''']] 18:23, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:::I'll let Phightins! worry about the other ones, but I see nothing wrong with [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WBBA|this closure]]. The article had already been redirected and the AfD had not seen any participation since. It was basically just housekeeping. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout'''''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:#FF8C00">C]])</small> 18:30, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::::I understand what you're mentioning. I feel that there should have been no hurry to undertake the said housekeeping. If, after seven days of relisting, there's no editor who has added new content claiming that WBBA is actually "Washington Biotechnology & Biomedical Association", then this bold redirect close would have been viable.[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''<sup>Message</sup>''']] 18:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::Fair enough. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout'''''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:#FF8C00">C]])</small> 18:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::::::First off, someone had already redirected WBBA so I simply closed the AfD as such. I haven't looked at the other ones yet. Give me a few minutes. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:03, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::::Yeah, I understand Wifione's point that you could have left it open, but I have no real problem with your closure there. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout'''''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:#FF8C00">C]])</small> 20:10, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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All right, I'll reply to these one at a time. |
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#I'll concede that this one wasn't a great closure. Sorry about that. |
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#I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. The nominator stated that he couldn't tell if it was notable based on foreign language refs, and two others !voted keep with additional sources. Even if an administrator closed this, they would have had to close it as either keep or no consensus, which has the same de facto result, [[WP:NOHARM]] may apply. I understand your point, but I think that I would stand by that closure. |
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#Not sure why you object to a relisting where the !votes thus far were delete, delete, delete, an explanation for why it was created, and a strong keep. There's no consensus there, and if an administrator wanted to override the relisting and close it as delete, they'd have been welcome to do so, but they haven't. Additionally the newest !vote is to redirect, a scenario that hadn't been considered. I'm going to stand by my relisting of this one too. |
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#I just discussed this with someone else. I closed this immediately after re-reading [[WP:NAC]]. I double-checked because I didn't know what the protocol was, and I closed it as was listed as an appropriate closure. |
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#Why should the fifth one have been re-listed? |
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#There were new references since the article had been nominated with the primary concern as notability, and every !vote since then was to keep. All votes prior to this were delete on account of there being no references to confer notability. |
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--[[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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*I appreciate your reply. I hope you see this in the right perspective. As an administrator, I would have closed these six AfDs differently. It means that I am disagreeing with your closures in my administrative capacity. It also means that I believe these closures are either clearly opposite to my closures or are borderline closures and you should not from now on perhaps be closing such AfDs. If you had been an administrator, I would view your statement, that you stand by your closure, in a different light. You are not an administrator. And I am not comfortable with you closing AfDs that can be closed differently from what you've done. I've listed my replies sequentially again: |
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#First AfD: I appreciate your acceptance of it not being a great closure. |
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#Second AfD: You should have left this to an admin to close it as ''No consensus''. I don't know whether you checked the sources given by the second ''keep'' !voter. First one was a primary source of the channel. Second mentions it's a press release. Third source has the starting copied from the press release. Fourth is a blog review written by a visitor. In other words, if it's a no consensus closure, you should leave it to an admin. |
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#Third AfD: I don't know whether you checked the sources provided by the one ''keep'' !voter. Both are primary links, being those of the media house organizing the fest at the institute. And you seem to be not considering the nominator's delete !vote in your final list. In other words, I see four ''delete'' !votes and one ''keep''!vote based on primary sources. I would have deleted this at this point. It doesn't matter whether you stand by your closure. These relistings should be left to an admin to decide. |
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#Fourth Afd: It is the closing administrator's judgement to either delete the article or not as per No Quorum. In other words, you should not have closed an AfD which can go either way. Please don't close such AfDs again. |
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#:Then what is your response to the second (it might be third, but I think it's second) type of appropriate closure under [[WP:NAC]]? [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 21:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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#::It's a dated essay that has not been updated, has no view on BLPs, and goes in some perspectives opposite to what policy mentions. What you should be following is not the essay, but the guideline on [[Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Non-administrators_closing_discussions|non admin closures]].[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''<sup>Message</sup>''']] 22:08, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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#Fifth Afd: This would have been relisted when you consider that an editor could have believed there were two ''keep'' !votes and one ''delete'' !vote of the nominator, who mentions that the sources he's seen don't seem reliable. Again, it doesn't matter if the final result may have come out as keep. This is a borderline case and you should not be handling such AfDs, irrespective of whether you stand by your closure or not. |
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#Sixth AfD: Four delete !votes including the nominators. The first ''keep'' !vote gives no additional citation, only subjective opinion on what he/she thinks of Sigma Theta Pi. Second ''keep'' !vote mentions just one line that "This article is in need of expansion not deletion". Third ''keep'' !vote mentions "Keep if expanded as Drdpw has said above", additionally mentioning some references added look good. In other words, this is a case that should not be undertaken by a non-admin. If you had relisted here, I wouldn't have complained. |
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Please do realize. My intention is not to slight you or question your motivation. These are AfDs that you as a non-admin should not be taking a chance with. Please go ahead and close clear cut keep AfDs. But other AfDs, please be extremely careful and avoid closing borderline AfDs based on your conviction. Please do ask me for any assistance at any time on this. Best.[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''<sup>Message</sup>''']] 21:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:And just for clarification, you would be OK with my closing of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astronomy Now|this]] AfD because the nominator withdrew his request for deletion? [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 22:02, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::I'll have to read any further replies in a few hours, I'm on my way out, but thanks a lot for bringing all this to my attention. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 22:10, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:::No issues. Good to see you around. Best.[[User:Wifione|'''<span style="color: red;"> Wifione</span>''']] [[User talk:Wifione|'''<sup>Message</sup>''']] 22:12, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== A brownie for you! == |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | '''Brownies are proven to lift one's spirits by at least 500%.'''<sup>[citation needed]</sup></br>Eat it. Seriously.We all make mistakes or get into confusion now and then, but Wikipedia '''needs you'''--just like it needs everyone else--so take a break, eat some brownies, and sit right back down at that keyboard.:) —'''<font color=#232323>[[User:Theopolisme|Theo]]</font><font color=#4F4F4F>[[User_Talk:Theopolisme|polisme]]</font>''' 01:12, 29 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Unfortunately, I think a stale chocolate chip cookie will have to suffice as far as real life, but thanks anyway {{smiley}}. Thanks for the sentiment; I needed it. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 01:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Adoption == |
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Dear Go Phightins, I would like to be adopted by you. I might not be able to come for days on end(perhaps) but I'll be here most weeks. I want to get some experience in editing articles as well, and I thought adoption might be really useful. Thanks-[[User:Clockery|Clockery]] ([[User talk:Clockery|talk]]) 14:57, 29 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:OK, great! I'll set up a classroom for you. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::Your adoption classroom is [[User:Go Phightins!/Adopt/Clockery|here]]. Post everything pertaining to adoption over there. Thanks! [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:35, 29 November 2012 (UTC) |
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