User talk:198.91.170.20

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I seem to be on this IP more than most, so I will just take this opportunity to say that I am not new to Wikipedia. I have been writing and editing here for nearly as long as Wikipedia has existed. I choose not to take out a membership, but I will sign off my comments by the name I am best known as on the Internet, by way of taking responsibility for them. In this way, I hope to be a constant reminder to all Wikipedians of the value of non-member IPs to Wikipedia. - Tenebris 16:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Nonetheless, it is rather amusing to notice just how many Wikipedians automatically send the "Welcome to Wikipedia" bot my way without bothering to read this page first. - Tenebris 22:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm the only one amused enough to reply back with "Helium.com, really"? Flowanda | Talk 09:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Flowanda | Talk 09:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi there! Nice of you to drop by! Sure, I drop off the occasional reference in that direction (and others too!). It happens to be one of those odd sites where you can find good quality academic articles (eg. "Why Winning the Silver Medal is Worse Than Winning the Bronze Medal" or "The Effects of the Cold War on US Education", by Michael Totten) and you can also find absolute rubbish (no link needed). I happen to think that the first should be encouraged and not discarded, notwithstanding that the second is louder and easier to find. For my own part, you will find a few dozen poems "by Tenebris" on that site ("(poetry) city living" , "(like) a thief in the night", (poetry intangible) "Liminality", and that absolute demonstration that I did not always get to choose the titles, "But The Cherry Trees Will Blossom Once Again" / "Villanelles about spring", written shortly after the Sendai earthquake and tsunami). (If you are curious, you can always use the quotes around my name to find them.) I also used to write the odd minor analysis ("Poetry analysis: Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley", "Why ice floats on water" ). Anyway, that is my reasoning. Given that it is Wikipedia, others can always overrule me. All the best - Tenebris 20:15, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia![edit]

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your recent edits[edit]

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 22:09, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: Tables[edit]

Sorry, I've been a bit busy lately, but I haven't forgotten. There is really no rush, since NWS product archives will always be available. I'll get to the table as soon as I get time. United States Man (talk) 04:49, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Noted, thanks (and good luck with whatever is causing the busy-ness). - Tenebris 23:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 08:26, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Signature[edit]

Hey, please read WP:SIGLINK, which applies to IP users as well - your signature is required to have a link to either a user page, user talk page, or contributions, so your current signature, which is your "name" plus a timestamp, does not conform to the guideline. I'd suggest either signing in full or creating an account. Is there any specific reason that you do not wish to register? If you stay editing as an IP, I can see a lot more information ([1], for example) about you than if you created an account. Also, signing off with a name instead of the standard IP signature runs counter to your stated goal of being "a constant reminder to all Wikipedians of the value of non-member IPs to Wikipedia". Cheers, ansh666 02:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

And yet somehow you found a link to a user page and user talk page directly from my signature and the bot automated addition, which would seem to fulfill the minimum requirement. (There was no other way you could have arrived here.) There is no way to sign in "in full" without creating an account. You have already read my reasoning in not registering. I leave my name to make it difficult for others to genericise me, and thus hopefully act as an active symbol of other IPs. I do not really care who sees my IP and time stamp: which would be the only "lot more information" which can be seen by not being signed in. (I do not write anything different on the Internet than I say in person.) I have also been adding the five tildes ever since someone once told me that it was difficult to follow conversations without seeing regular-print time stamps, and explained how to do it without having to sign in. Interesting that Wikipedia should have that specific shortcut ... which would almost seem to have been made specifically for people like me. All the best, Tenebris. 04:30, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
No. I originally assumed you were editing from an account. I had to go to the history of the page you'd edited (Talk:Main Page) and look through edit by edit to figure out who commented; that is how I arrived here. This is the exact scenario that WP:SIGLINK is intended to prevent - ignoring it is considered disruptive and can potentially get you blocked.
To sign your posts correctly, use four tildes (~~~~). This will put the timestamp as well as links to your contributions and talk page, which will look like this: "198.91.170.29 (talk) 09:51, 11 November 2014 (UTC)".You can still have your tag in front, but having the full signature will make clear that you are unregistered (which, as I said before, is not immediately clear without looking at the page history). Also, from your IP I can see that you are editing from a corporate-registered network in Justin Beiber's birthplace, among other things. ansh666 09:51, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Ah, you have caught me. I am really Justin Bieber in disguise. (grin) But back on topic.
The last admin I spoke to explicitly told me to use five tildes, because four tildes do not work for an IP (or did not at the time). A bot always used to add an automated link -- should still be doing so, unless Wikipedia has done some strange updates. (That same bot kicks in as an edit conflict if I try to work same-section edits too fast.) I can try to do four tildes again here, and see what happens.
But as it happens, IP information is not as accurate as you think it is, because IPs are based off the location of the network operator, not of the user. I have had IPs which have shown me as anywhere from Ottawa to Toronto to NYC -- and just a few months ago Jimmy Wales commented on Twitter that his IP showed him as being in (major U.S. city, I think it might even have been west coast), while he was giving his talks in the UK. (To quote him: "epic fail".) That would be because IPs are based off where the corporate-registered network is located, as an approximation to where the user is located. That kind of thing happens even if the person does not use an anonymiser. Yet even if the information you gave were dead-on: why would this knowledge be a concern? I mean, I could see it if I were doing something somehow irregular, be it Silk Road or simply posting illicitly from work -- but I am the same person online as I am in person. It makes life so much easier.
Incidentally, I never knew that about Justin Bieber. All the Bieber tours always direct Beliebers to Stratford, his home town, where he grew up and went to school. Although I suppose it makes sense, since that particular hospital used to be obstetrics-central for all of SW Ontario. In good faith, should I assume you were not trying to get a rise out of me by bringing this context up at all? (grin) - Tenebris (experimenting with four tildes) 198.91.170.20 (talk) 22:14, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Nah, that's just immediately what I think of when I see London. I know you're right about the IP stuff, my "home" IP registers to the other side of a rather large body of water. User:SineBot apparently only adds the "unsigned" tag if the timestamp isn't there, because it assumes that you have a proper signature before it. ansh666 22:43, 12 November 2014 (UTC)