User talk:45.44.227.168

July 2021

Hello, I'm Loafiewa. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, McMillan TAC-50, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Loafiewa (talk) 19:07, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thats literally the number provided in the main body of the article. My source, its already on wikipedia. Don't touch it.

"World record An unnamed Canadian Joint Task Force 2 sniper made the longest recorded sniper kill in history with this weapon in Iraq. He made the kill within the 30-day period leading up to 22 June 2017. The Canadian sniper killed an ISIS fighter from 3,540 meters (3,870 yd; 2.20 mi).[4] The previous record of 2,475 meters (2,707 yd; 1.538 mi) was set by British sniper Craig Harrison in 2009 using a .338 Lapua Magnum chambered L115A3 Long Range Rifle sniper rifle.[4]

Three of the top five longest recorded sniper kills were made with the McMillan TAC-50 rifle, all by Canadian soldiers. "

I don't think you made a mistake you did make a mistake.

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Do me a favor and look at the talk page. The dispute has been brought up. I am sorry but your source doesn't state what you claimed.

Hi. I see many articles (like M16 rifle, M240 machine gun) were the maximum firing range is a reasonable value for or near the terminal range. Such a range is not a particularly usable range, especially when point targets are involved, but it is used to determine safety limits. A .50 BMG 750 gr A-MAX or other rifle projectile is still dangerous at or near its terminal range as it terminates its flight with a considerable remaining velocity. At https://www.quora.com/How-far-will-the-bullet-from-a-50-BMG-rifle-travel-What-is-the-maximum-distance the math for a .50 BMG 750 gr A-MAX projectile can be found.--Francis Flinch (talk) 09:02, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You just tried to come at with a Quora article? No, God no, your opinion is now moot. Notice how the article for the .50 BMG itself has no maximum distance in that stats column? Its because its rifle dependent.

The manufacturer of the TAC-50 states a muzzle velocity of 2700 fps when using a 750 gr A-MAX projectile.^[1] Quora by chance assumed the same muzzle velocity in their example. The aero-ballistic behavior differences between different projectile designs downrange generally influence the terminal range/safety limits more than 100 fps muzzle velocity difference. See the math for M33 661 gr ball out of a (longer barreled) .50 M2 machine gun (mv = 2910 fps) at https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m2-50cal-specs.htm Compared to the M33 the .50 750 gr A-MAX projectile offers quite nice long range aero-ballistic behavior.--Francis Flinch (talk) 13:07, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Still not good enough. Not all BMG .50 is the same either. For example the shot made by Rob Furlong was using American .50 BMG and not Canadian. There isn't a uniformity. Also like I said, it depends on what rifle is firing the round. If you can find real world data with that specific firearm, have it, otherwise we're just trusting speculation. The math looks good on paper but the real world is different. If you'd like to put the maximum range and specify that its an estimate, have at it, that would be correct. Saying it is outright, well there is a disconnect.

I filled in approximately 7700 m (750 gr A-Max), as that is a commonly issued load for military sniping. The approximation covers shot to shot mv deviation and differences in atmospheric density.--Francis Flinch (talk) 08:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Data Summary McMillan Tactical TAC-50" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 27 May 2008. Retrieved 14 October 2017.

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[1] "Data Summary McMillan Tactical TAC-50" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 27 May 2008. Retrieved 14 October 2017.

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