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The way the British government uses census data to determine the population of what most cities call their "metropolitan area" is at small but significant variance with other government's practices. Generally this leads to a rather significant understating of the population of the metropolitan area around London. As best as I can determine using 2001 census data, the population within a 60 mile radius of London would have exceeded 15 million by a few hundred thousand. Surely, considering the size of London, such a radius would not be unwarranted. The 2011 census data is now becoming available and would now place the same area's population well above 16 million. Considering the fact that cities of similar size (New York, Los Angeles, Paris etc) allow a larger geographic area to be included as long as population density within the radius generally reflects significantly increased density based on the accessibility of and to the metropolitan core, I would argue for the inclusion of the larger population figure based on such a radius. Certainly it would more accurately reflect the true scale of population in the London area, and provide a more accurate figure for comparison with other similarly-sized world cities.I will be publishing the 60-mile radius data in the next 4-6 weeks, and ask for opinions for including that statistic once that has been completed (talk) 20:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)== August 2012 ==

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Letty Aronson. When changing an article to reflect a person's death, you must provide a reliable source. This is true whether or not the person mentioned is the subject of the article. Rivertorch (talk) 06:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate that you might like a better source than the fact that I have known the family for forty years. However, as you have changed the article back, you have now made it appear that a dead person is still living. I can barely think of a more unpleasant result. I'm sure you wouldn't want that to remain. Here is the URL of the death notice of Letty's husband from the New York Times: If this needs to be cited according to wikipedia's methodology, I would appreciate your help in doing so. I am changing this back to the way I had it. (talk) 20:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)