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Happy editing! Rafy talk 13:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Edits should be referenced[edit]

It is important to include references if you make assertions in your edits. This enables others to fact-check the edit. From your recent edits, the following errors appear to have been made:

  • Babylonia: Sumu-abum (ca. 1830-1817 BC) was not a contemporary of Erishum I (ca. 1905-1867 BC). They were around 75 years apart. A later chronicle gives his father, Ilu-shuma, as a contemporary of a certain Su-abu, once identified with Sumu-abum, but since disregarded due to this preposterous chronology.
  • Marduk-kabit-ahheshu: to quote your edit “before suffering a series of defeats at the hands of the Assyrian king Ashur-Dan I, losing Babylonian territory in the process.” Ashur-Dan’s invasion of Babylonia took place before the reign of Marduk-kabit-ahheshu and not during it in response to any invasion by Marduk-kabit-ahheshu. This was during Zababa-shuma-iddin’s reign, the last of the Kassite kings.
  • Assyria: Ilushuma’s inscription refers to tax exemptions for Akkadians trading copper in Assyria and not any invasion of the south. This is the view held by most Assyriologists since the mid 1970’s [Larsen, 1976].

Please help us increase the accuracy of these Mesopotamian articles and not the contrary.BigEars42 (talk) 13:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Recent edits to Falkland Islands[edit]

Better before - WP:OVERLINK. Thank you! Widefox; talk 11:03, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

April 2013[edit]

Please do not add or change content, as you did to History of Turkey, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Also, please do not add too much information about certain civilizations to detriment of other information. This is the main article, each section should be a summary. Cavann (talk) 20:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Also note that sources such as these [1] may not be reliable, given your edit [2] Cavann (talk) 20:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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June 2013[edit]

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Iran[edit]

Hi there. I undid your changes to the Iran article because they didn't cite any sources. Actually, Wikipedia's verifiability policy says that we need to cite sources for all edits that are contested or that are likely to be contested. Feel free to reinstate your edits once you have found reliable sources to back them up. If you need help with citations, check out referencing for beginners, and let me know on my talk page if you have any questions. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:50, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

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August 2013[edit]

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  • [[Assur]] and [[Nineveh]], restored the "world-temple" at Assur, and founded the city of [[Kalhu]] (the biblical [[Calah]]/[[Nimrud]]. He was succeeded by his son [[Tukulti-Ninurta I]].

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September 2013[edit]

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October 2013[edit]

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  • opinion among scholars today is that the terms ''Syrian'' and ''Syriac'' are indeed 9th century BC [[Indo-European] derivatives of ''Assyrian'', and in past times these terms actually only meant

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December 2013[edit]

Please do not add or significantly change content as you did to Assyria without citing verifiable and reliable sources, especially when the content could be questionable, dubious or controversial. Donner60 (talk) 05:33, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

January 2014[edit]

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  • Ethiopian Christians may have lived in Mecca.<ref>Philip K. Hitti, History of the Arabs, 6th ed. (Macmillan and St. Martin's Press, 1967, pp. 78-84 (on the Ghassanids and Lakhmids) and pp. 87-108 (
  • of the 400,000 Christians in Iraq are indigenous ethnic [[Assyrians]] (also called Chaldo-Assyrians]]), who follow [[Syriac Christian]] churches, most notably the [[Chaldean Catholic Church|Chaldean

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September 2014[edit]

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  • soon rebelled under [[Nabopolassar]], a member of the [West Semitic languages|West Semitic]] [[Chaldea]]n people, 9th century BC migrants to south eastern Babylonia. In alliance with the [[

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October 2014[edit]

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  • Empire]], [[Prussia]], the [[Austro-Hungarian Empire]], [[French Empire]] and the British Empire]].<ref>Sven Rubenson, ''King of Kings: Tewodros of Ethiopia'' (Addis Ababa: Haile Selassie I

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  • 8th centuries AD the region has been known by the traditional Arabic name of '''''Al-Jazira''''' ([[Arabic language|Arabic]] {{lang|ar| الجزيرة }} "the [[jazira|island]]", also transliterated ''

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December 2014[edit]

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Request reason:

I have been blocked for reverting mindless reversions from Penguin 53, all my edits were referenced

Decline reason:

You've been blocked for edit warring. Yes, content has to be sourced, but edit warring to include sourced content is still edit warring. My advice is that you establish consensus on the talk page instead of edit warring. PhilKnight (talk) 11:23, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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See my prior warning at Talk:Assyrian people#Warning: New rules for this page. Fut.Perf. 10:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

January 2015[edit]

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Request reason:

I have been blocked YET AGAIN for NO REASON AT ALL! Where was any controversy about my minor edit on Assyrian people. This is an extreme reaction. We must be able to edit, all I actually did was put [[]] on old, and middle Assyrian Empire and mention the arrival of the Chaldeans in Mesopotamia. Utter nonsense, and grossly unfair. And there was no Edit Warring involved at all!

Decline reason:

You should take a look at what your "minor" edit did. You added more than 1K of unreferenced (and dubious) text to a highly disputed article, with an edit summary that can only be called misleading. Derailing a talk page discussion from what the sources say to what you think is true is the icing on the cake. Huon (talk) 19:51, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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@Future Perfect at Sunrise: Could you help me better understand this block? I am seeing only two edits prior to the block and neither are obviously disruptive to me. Is there some sort of discretionary sanction or something else I am missing? It would not be the first time something obvious eluded me. Chillum 07:27, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Please see my warning at Talk:Assyrian people#Warning: New rules for this page. The block was due mainly to the edit on the talkpage [3], where 81.* was deflecting a properly raised argument about correct treatment of sources into a personal argument of historical opinion. It is exactly these kinds of personal-opinion arguments that have been an extremely long-standing problem on this page, and I've been trying to drive home the point that they are disruptive and have to stop, on all sides of this sorry mess of a dispute. Fut.Perf. 08:29, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Personal opinion arguments on the talk page are pretty common so there must be something I am missing. I am going to leave this for someone else to review as I am clearly missing something that may be evident to another admin. Chillum 19:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

It's a chronic issue of The Truth™ vs. what reliable sources say. 81.111.12.105 is not here to improve the encyclopedia but to push their own POV. Huon (talk) 19:51, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Chillum: I wouldn't say that 81.* here has been worse than most other participants on this article, and of course you are right that normally such arguments are rather common on talkpages and are often tolerated. The problem is that in this particular case it's been a chronic problem of the entire topic area that everybody, always, for years and years, has been engaging in nothing but these kinds of personal opinion debates. There has never, ever, been any serious rational and policy-based level of discussion established about this article, because pretty much everybody who has had any interest in editing it at all has been so entrenched in this ideological insider debate about their own ethnic identities. That's why I've taken the stance of cracking down hard on all of it, to drive home the point that everybody who's been involved in this article has to change their attitude to editing, fundamentally. I've been blocking people left, right and centre for the last few weeks, but unfortunately the penny doesn't seem to have dropped yet. Fut.Perf. 20:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay. Chillum 02:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

@Future Perfect at Sunrise:, Thats just not the case, my edits were minor and not controversial in any way, they were not edit warring, and surely the talk page is for discussing edits? Where did I was deflect a properly raised argument about correct treatment of sources into a personal argument of historical opinion?? Please illustrate just where I did this? And bear in mind, that I am able to provide references on the Talk Page if necessary. Surely history IS a matter of opinion, and that applies to accredited historians and laymen alike. I see nothing wrong with putting an opinion or suggesting an edit on the talk page, provided it is reasonable and referenced. What you are doing in my poinion, and with all due respect, is overreacting and actually stifling reasonable discussion. You cannot have a concensus if no one is allowed to speak!