User talk:ATren/Civility

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I've just read your article on civility. I don't know what the furor that prompted it was - but it reminds me of a workshop I took almost 30 years ago on "non-violent persuasion". The essential idea presented was that you can't make anybody do anything - the most you can do by force is to make them wish they had/hadn't. Kind of persuasive logic! and, as I said, your article reminds me of it. -- Martha (talk) 04:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]