User talk:Accountforwp
Please stop inserting material that according to Wikipedia standards is not reliable according to [WP:RS]. Official newspaper per se is not a criteria. In the case of Biographies of living persons there has to be more than citing a tabloid, which Pluska certainly is. "Bio info on George Duroy is widely available on the internet". Where? Seven hits for a Google search certainly does not count as widely available on the internet. The name is on IMDb, which also is not a reliable source according to Wikipedia standards and therefore can not be used as source for WP. Other biographical data you come up with is not even in the article you have cited. Apparently your account has especially been created for this purpose here. Apparently you are here for on an outing mission, which also is not what Wikipedia is for. Then Wikipedia is not for promoting companies. Therefore I have deleted the part about Multimedia Services s.r.o., too. The web page is missing any reference to Bel Ami, too. This all will be reported to Wikipedia administrators. (Jamesbeat (talk) 08:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC))
Don't agree with you. I have already added the link to the online database of The Trade Marks And Designs Registration Office of the European Union, which clearly states that the trademark Bel Ami is owned by " Lanning Janosov doing business as George Duroy ".
Don't agree with you
[edit]Don't agree with you. I have already added the link to the online database of The Trade Marks And Designs Registration Office of the European Union, which clearly states that the trademark Bel Ami is owned by " Lanning Janosov doing business as George Duroy ".
- Well, it is not a just matter of agreement or disagreement but of Wikipedia policies, which always have to be respected. I agree with you for now on adding the name, which I just did citing your source. I will have this reviewed by Wikipedia administrators. But until then I will leave it. But the rest has to go including your talk page contribution. It's now on the main page so it saves no purpose. Also business addresses do not belong in a Wikipedia article. Again. The way you are presenting this all clearly shows you are on a mission. (Jamesbeat (talk) 09:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC))
Not on a mission just the facts
[edit]It's only the facts nothing more. There is no harm in providing the business address it's purely informational.
- The way you handle it looks like a mission. Especially when reverting my edit adding the real name and your source and replacing it with your edit that clearly violates WP standards. Business addresses are not allowed by Wikipedia standards. A link to the company in the link section, yes, but NOT complete addresses and more specifics like you have then in the article AND on the talk page, where this information clearly also does not belong. (Jamesbeat (talk) 10:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC))
- Jamesbeat could you please spent your time on making an active contribution to Wikipedia instead of only deleting the contributions of others.
- The information I have added on George Duroy and Multimedia Services comes from open and reliable sources and from the own website of Bel Ami.
- You are not an administrator so stop acting like a self appointed “Guardian Angel” of the Wiki rules of conduct.
- The additions are within the rules so leave them.:Accountforwp (talk) 10:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ahoj!
- but but Accountforwp, deleting unsourced or off-topic stuff from often unexperienced new editors is an active contribution to Wikipedia.
- Besides, you might not be aware of using trademark documents is considered a violation of WP:OR (no original research), also, backing up real names of people who use pseudonyms (for a reason!) with tabloid zines (in this particular case all from the same author) won't do; that said, information such as business addresses do not belong in the Bel Ami article anyway. Same goes for this "Multimedia Services" ad.
- Maybe you want to start an article about the filmmaker, script writer, journalist and art director George Duroy? Then I'd suggest you create a George Duroy biography, that's if you can establish notability and find reliable sources. I'm afraid you'll likely fail with both. However good luck with it!
- If you need a helping hand with WP:BLP policies, style and writing guides or uploading images you might want to consider to place {{Adoptme}} on your user or talk page, so a more experienced user can lead you the way to become a successful editor.
- regards 3vil-Lyn (talk) 10:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Please stop adding this information. Especially linking to a picture that does not even show George Duroy but in Slovakia well known actor Stefan Skrucany, which is even indicated by the file name. (Jamesbeat (talk) 09:09, 22 August 2008 (UTC))
Edit warring
[edit]Please stop simply reverting other people's edits. If you disagree about the content, you must discuss it on the talk page instead. If this doesn't work, you need to go through the dispute resolution process. If you engage in edit warring again, your account, and your IP address may be blocked for a much longer period. Papa November (talk) 12:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
instead of warning me you should block those who constantly delete my contributions to this page. I have added 2 sections (George Duroy and Multimedia Services) both are relevant and directly connected to the subject Bel Ami. The information in the sections I have added comes from open and reliable sources. 15:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
George Duroy and Multimedia Services
[edit]I have added 2 sections (George Duroy and Multimedia Services) both are relevant and directly connected to the subject Bel Ami. The information in the sections I have added comes from open and reliable sources
As you can read from the administrator if you don't agree with my additions to this page you are not allowed to edit/delete them but you should discuss them on this talk page. Accountforwp (talk) 15:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just for the record there were at least three people involved reverting your edits. Anyway. I can read very well. What the administrator wrote is If you disagree about the content, you must discuss it on the talk page instead. If this doesn't work, you need to go through the dispute resolution process. He was referring to you. Not to "us". You are disagreeing with the majority of editors on this page and you are reverting their edits. That is why the administrator asked you to first discuss the content you want to add before reverting other people's edits and go through the dispute resolution process. I cannot see that he told us to stop reverting your edits. He even wanted to revert the page himself to the original version but 3vil-Lyn was a tad faster.
- There is no need for a section for company founder George Duroy as the name is already in the article. The information about George Duroy you wish to add belongs not in an article about the company but in an article about George Duroy, that is if you can establish notability and find reliable sources (quote: 3vil-Lyn). Part of the information you provided came not from a reliable source, which a tabloid zine isn't. But you still added information that is sourced on a trademark document, which is a violation of No original research. So this information has to go.
- You are also not providing a reliable source for the year of birth. Please note that IMDb will not do, because it is not a reliable Wikipedia source.
- The information about Multimedia Services is dispensable and adds nothing to the article except advertising.
- To your credit you have taken down the links to that tabloid in your last edit after having been told that the picture in the article that you even provided an extra link for did not show George Duroy, which with all due respect shows that you apparently did not know what you were linking to. (Jamesbeat (talk) 17:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC))