User talk:Alpsays

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Hello, Alpsays, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Mustafa Ülgen, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! RadioFan (talk) 19:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mustafa Ülgen[edit]

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Mustafa Ülgen, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

non-notable person

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. RadioFan (talk) 19:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

May 2009[edit]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Mustafa Ülgen. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Bihco (talk) 22:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Articles on Mustafa Ülgen[edit]


You should only create one article with identitical content. Any alternative spellings should be included onl as redirects to the main article. Passportguy (talk) 22:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Mustafa Ülgen[edit]

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I have nominated Mustafa Ülgen, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mustafa Ülgen. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Passportguy (talk) 22:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button Button sig.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 00:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009[edit]

Information.svg If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Mustafa Ulgen, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
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  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. RadioFan (talk) 11:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Mustafa Ülgen article[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia (I think I am right in supposing that you're new here?) I'm replying to your comment at my talk page about your new article about your father, Mustafa Ülgen. It seems to me that you are running into a bit of bother in creating this article. Firstly, well done in being bold and creating it! However, you need to prove that Ülgen is notable enough to be on Wikipedia: crucially, by using references to reliable, independent sources. Look at other biographies for examples.

I recently created an article on the physicist Elepter Andronikashvili, whose autobiography I was reading at the time. Other people have added additional references since I created the article - that's the great thing about Wikipedia - but I did start it with a couple to show I hadn't just made this guy up. Also notice the structure of the article. I think that the Ülgen article should maybe have a "Contributions to dentistry" section, with a balanced assessment of his impact on the field.

If you improve the style of the article (make it consistent with the style of other biographies on WP) and add references to back up the article's text, there should be no problem with your contribution - have fun! One final warning - don't be drawn into heated arguments on the talk page. It can seem that other editors are being difficult, and it is rather dismaying that people want to delete your contributions, but remember that the other editors are trying to improve the encyclopedia, and keep a cool head. It's much better to put your efforts into improving the article rather than arguing on the talk page.

If you've any further questions, feel free to ask me (or another editor) for help at any time (I'll check here). Also, don't forget to sign your edits on talk pages with ~~~~ (as I think someone said above) A.C. Norman (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I saw that the Turkish version of the Mustafa Ülgen article was deleted again. Perhaps you should wait a bit until the English version gets polished and translate that to be included in the Turkish wikipedia. Jarkeld (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

In reply to your questions at my talk page, I'm probably not a good person to ask on this, as I don't often cite non-English sources. WP:CITE offers some guidance on what to do, which I can't better from my experience. The Turkish "Who's Who" ought to be fine as a reference, but I still think you need to hammer home why the subject of the article is notable enough to be included on Wikipedia in a "contributions to dentistry" section - for example, is there a particular new technique or method which Mustafa Ülgen has developed or pioneered? A.C. Norman (talk) 09:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)