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Greek to me[edit]

Greetings. I just wrote the page Greek to me. I am comparing similar expressions in other languages. I was wondering if you would be able to add the expression in any languages with which you are comfortable. Btw, I just found your page/profile by running a search for users who have a level 4/level 5 ability in non-English languages. Thanks much! samwaltz 04:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Christianization of Rus[edit]

Sorry, I had to revert your edit. First of all, we cannot use copyrighted text borrowed from other web sites (Enc of Ukraine in this case). More importantly, this article is about Christianization of Rus, which is a specific event, rather than the history of all christianity related events in present-day Ukraine. TIA for your understanding. --Irpen 08:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Ukrainian topics[edit]

Also, if you are interested in Ukraine-related themes, you may want to check out the Ukraine Portal, particularly the Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements and Portal:Ukraine/Ukraine-related Wikipedia notice board. The New article announcements board is probably the most important and the most attended one. Please don't forget to announce there the new articles you create. Adding both boards to your watchlist is probably a good idea.

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Again, welcome!--Irpen 08:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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I will see what I can do.

BTW, if you are interested in Ukraine-related themes, you may want to check out the Ukraine Portal, particularly the Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements and Portal:Ukraine/Ukraine-related Wikipedia notice board. The New article announcements board is probably the most important and the most attended one. Please don't forget to announce there the new articles you create. As for your articles Baidak and Petro Kalnyshevsky, I've already added them. Thank you. Adding both boards to your watchlist is probably a good idea. --Irpen 21:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for info. If have enough time, I will try to participate. Ans-mo 06:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Ans-mo, please try to control your talk page entries somewhat. These are the topics on which everyone has strong opinions. Please try to not contribute to further deterioration of the inter-editors relationship. One easy thing that helps, is to give at least an hour before responding to an annoying post. (Such responses can always wait.) When you spend more time here, you will see how deeply rooted are some editing disagreements, how editors still often manage to resolve them, what methods certain editors use to get an upper hand (most don't) and how to conduct the talk page discussions to get things done rather than "get" "them", you know. I really need to resolve some backlog before I can fully invest myself into this dispute. And, by that time, there would likely be more urgent disputes waiting for resolution. That's wikilife. A price we pay for making just some articles reasonably good. Happy edits, --Irpen 20:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I will try to follow the advises. I just thought, that we have to follow simple rules of Wikipedia, neutrality, several opinions representing (if necessary), independent judgement. Here I see, that views on some topics are dominant just because of quantity advantage and manipulative skills of their supporters, instead of relying on Wiki rules.Ans-mo 07:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
This is a little too difficult to reply in few words but I do understand you. The diversity of editors is the main asset of Wikipedia. It works more often than not (but not 100% of the time, true enough.) Cheers, --Irpen 07:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
If this is the diversity of POWs, it could be a big asset. But when there is just erasing opposite opinion even from discussion pages, it does not make mutual efforts really fruitful and neutral.Ans-mo 08:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

WP Christianity[edit]

Hi, I saw your name on the WikiProject Christianity Membership page.

I've made some changes to the WP Christianity main project page, added several sup-project pages, created a few task forces section, and proposed several more possible changes so that we can really start making some serious progress on the project. Please stop by and see my comments on the project talk page here and consider joining a task force or helping out with improving and contributing to our sub-projects. Thanks for your time! Nswinton 14:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for information. If having enough time, I may try to take some little part. Ans-mo 14:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


Thanks a lot for several articles you started lately. Please do not forget to cite sources in the end. Also, sourcing the images is absolutely mandatory and not doing that will result in their being deleted at bot-like speed. I fixed Apanovich but I was merely lucky to find it. Thanks again. --Irpen 18:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for mending Apanovich photo situation. I mistakenly thought, that it could be used on "fair use" condition. By the way, I found it initially not on ZN page, but on the page of the Museum of dissident movement.[1]Ans-mo 06:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Dated cleanup tags[edit]

Hi, thanks for your message, SmackBot does not generally add tags, but merely dates those that are already there. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 19:25 30 May 2007 (GMT).

Thanks for your information. Anyway, I think that in some sort of articles reliable "External links" could be considered as enough "Reference". It is just the question of naming it "references" or "external links". Ans-mo 06:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

June 2007 Wikiproject Christianity Newsletter[edit]

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Your edit to Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer[edit]


I noticed that you placed a link to the page Lyons in this article. This page is a disambiguation page, containing the names of many people, places companies etc all called "Lyons". To which did you mean to refer. Please change your link to point directly to the appropriate page. For more information, see WP:WPDAB. Thanks Dontdoit 23:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, that was a passage from public domain catholic encyclopedia, Lyons evidently meant French city. I will try to correct. Best regards. Ans-mo 06:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Abundant Life Foundation[edit]

Hey, Ans-mo. I wanted to give you a heads-up about Abundant Life Foundation. There's been some concern by myself and others on the ALF dab page that the Abundant Life Foundation organization may not meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). You can see some preliminary discussion about it here. Now, I'm not saying it does or it doesn't meet the criteria, but to perfectly upfront, I haven't been able to find too much information about it, and this can have an effect on meeting notability criteria. On the other hand, this NGO could be very notable, if only we could find good secondary sources about it. If the article was to be nominated for deletion, the votes could go either way depending on the arguments presented. So, with that said, can you find other sources for this groups notability besides their websites? I was able to find mention of this NGO on the official Thai government website, but that may not be enough for other people. Then again, that may suffice. Let me know what you find or help contribute to a discussion about its notability on Talk:Abundant Life Foundation and a discussion abou its subsequent inclusion on the dab page over at Talk:ALF. To speak frankly, most of us are ignorant of this organization, but that is no reason why it should not be able to meet the notability guidelines I linked to above. Read them over and let me know what you think. Another suggestion: you may want to contact the WikiProject that maintains this article for help. —Viriditas | Talk 02:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Viriditas. Thanks for your detailed notification about this issue. First of all, the article Abundant Life Foundation belongs to the List of non-governmental organizations in Thailand. Second, it is mentioned in related to Bangkok Post Directory of charities in Thailand. Maybe it is not the biggest and very well known foundation, but I dont see the reason, why it should not be shortly described and mentioned in related lists or directories.Ans-mo 07:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


The information you added is not appropriate for the Deaf-mute article. That article is about the historical (and now outdated and offensive) term "deaf-mute"; it is not about deafness in general or deaf education. The information you added is more appropriate for the articles on Deafness, Deaf culture, or possibly a new article on deaf education. Note that some of the information may already be contained in one of those articles. Redundant information should not be added. If it is already in one article, you can wikilink it in another article.

Note also that your source article ("Education of the Deaf and Dumb") probably does not reflect currently acceptable standards for education of the deaf. Its use of the term "deaf and dumb" reflects an even more outdated and offensive way of thinking than the term "deaf-mute". My advice is to find a more suitable, non-religious source, or to simply not add the information. Thank you. Ward3001 15:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Dioceses of Vietnam and Category: Roman Catholic Church in Vietnam[edit]

I don't think the dioceses belong into that category, as they are already member of the Category: Roman Catholic dioceses in Vietnam, which is a subdirectory of the Category: Roman Catholic Church in Vietnam. As far as I understand categories, in case there is a subcategory which fits then the article should not be added into the parent categories anymore. Same as e.g. Category:Florida is almost empty, and only contains lots of subcategories. andy 16:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. You are right.Ans-mo 05:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Transliteration policy[edit]

As a member of WikiProject Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located here. Thank you. — Alex(U|C|E) 17:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for invitation, though I am not a big expert in that theme.Ans-mo 05:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Protestants in Ukraine[edit]

Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Protestants in Ukraine, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on July 9 where you can improve it if you see fit.--Riurik(discuss) 01:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think this article should be reworked, if pretending for such high nomination. The major part of the article is just copypasting from Ukrainian Religious Portal RISU (references indicated in the article). RISU allows to use its materials in part and as a whole but with reference on source. Sorry, if it brought some inconveniences. Maybe it is necessary to make special template: This article incorporates material from RISU portal (or something of that kind).Ans-mo 06:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I wrote the above passage before finding, that the article had been modified. OK. Regards.Ans-mo 06:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 14 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Protestants in Ukraine, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 20:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

That is very encouraging news. Regards.Ans-mo 06:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 17 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Global Village Foundation, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I feel more and more encouraged.Ans-mo 13:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Project tagging[edit]

Just a note that you need to set "class=" not "quality" otherwise the categorising will not work. I was talking about {{WPVN}}. thanks, YellowAssessmentMonkey 05:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I thought it was a standard template for all projects. Some projects have "quality" in that place of template.Ans-mo 05:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


I have proposed an award at the Ukraine Wikiproject - You appear to be a member of the project and I would like some feedback from you - thanks // Finns Original Barnstar.png


Updated DYK query On 25 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sub-Carpathian Reformed Church, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 16:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for informing.Ans-mo 12:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Compassion International (Taiwan)[edit]

Hello! Yes it is the same organisation and i merged what you wrote (and that was not redondant with the article) into the section: Compassion_International#Taiwan. Thanks for what you have done :) and please continue to help with this article. -Sucrine ( ><> talk) 19:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for information and help. At first I thought, it was another organization with the same name. Now it appears, that it is the same organization. Best regards.Ans-mo 09:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Baptists in Ukraine[edit]

Hello, I see that you have written much on Protestants in Ukraine. I have started an seperate article on Baptists, would you mind helping expand it? Thanks, Ostap 02:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for informtion and proposal. I will try to participate.Ans-mo 06:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


Award of Ukraine Za Zaslugy 3rd Degree.jpg For Merit - 3rd degree
You are hereby awarded this Ukrainian National Award "For Merit", for greatly expanding coverage of Protestantism in Ukraine and for exposing Ukraine-related articles to wider audiences by writing entries eligible for the "Did You Know" section on the Main Page.--Riurik(discuss) 06:36, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Riurik, very much. I am grateful for awarding my modest activities. I hope, all of us are doing mutual cause. Best regards.Ans-mo 12:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Diocese of Vinh Long[edit]

Hi, there. I believe you're the creator of the page on the Diocese of Vinh Long. Can you tell me please what "suffragate" means? Thanks for your help. Kayobee 07:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Kayobee. Thanks for your comment. I took the word "suffragate" from one of the earliest created articles on Roman Catholic Dioceses in Vietnam (you can watch all of them on the page Roman Catholicism in Vietnam). It seemed to me as a special catholic term. After looking into dictionaries, it is now appear that it was a mistake, and should be changed to "suffragan diocese". Thanks. Regards. Ans-mo 08:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Already corrected. Ans-mo 11:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 7 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Canada-Ukraine relations, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wknight94 (talk) 12:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, my role is overestimated. I just added a small passage to the article. Ans-mo 15:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject World Heritage Sites has been created![edit]

Some time ago, you showed support for the creation of such a WikiProject. It has now been created, active immediately. Your name has been automatically included in the list of participants. If you do not wish to participate, please remove your name from the list. Sorry for the inconvienience — Jame§ugrono 12:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for information, I will try to participate some way. Ans-mo (talk) 15:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Amicus Meus[edit]

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The speedy-deletion was contested but the article still does need substantial improvement. Please join the conversation on the article's Talk page. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 01:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I've read both your notes on the article's Talk page and I have to admit I'm a bit confused. Songs which are still known after several hundred years are generally presumed to have at least some claim to notability. WP:MUSIC has more on the specific inclusion guidelines but they are skewed toward the filtering of more modern/pop-culture works. They apply poorly to classical works. If you're sure that the article should go, tag it with {{db-author}}. But you might want to get some other opinions first. You could try asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Music. Rossami (talk) 01:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. As for notability, you may be right. Maybe that song could be preserved and expanded, if somebody wants. At first, it appeared to me as a pleasant christian Renaissance song. Later I found, that it has somekind a contradictive lyrics and is connected with turbulent period of Counter-Reformation struggle in Europe. So I just dont want to touch sensitive and contradictive issues. If somebody wants to expand it, he may go ahead. But, in my opinion, such article should better be deleted.Ans-mo (talk) 07:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

WE Youth Political organization[edit]

This article looks like an advertisement/party platform to me, but the editor/guardian refuses to address my concerns. Could you take a look at it? I don't read Russian (or Ukrainian), but I suspect the articles cited don't really talk about this organization at all (or not meaningfully). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with opinion, that the article looks like advertisement and party platform. Though such organization really exists and provided links in Russian/Ukrainian confirm it, its present form is inacceptable from the point of neutrality and the article should be deleted or rewrited. There are strong politically motivated pro-Russian propaganda groups here in wiki, and the editing of such articles often cause disagreements.Ans-mo (talk) 07:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Please re-write it. The creator of the article, it is pretty clear, is an enthusiastic member thereof, and is fiercely resistant to any criticism. (Their English isn't very good either; but it's a lot better than my Russian or Ukrainian!) --Orange Mike | Talk 14:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for proposal. At present I dont have much time for it. Anyway the mentioning on the article (as advertisement) is posted to the noticeboard of the Ukraine Project, maybe there somebody will take part in rewriting.Ans-mo (talk) 15:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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You are hereby awarded this Ukrainian National Award, Order of Yaroslav the Wise, for contributions to religious and art topics. Among these are Maria Pryimachenko, Theotokos Samarska, Theotokos Iverskaya, Theotokos of Pochayiv, and Encyclopedia of Ukraine.--Riurik(discuss) 07:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Riurik, so much for the award. I wish I could have more time for that activity. Thank you also for maintaining the Ukrainian topics here in Wikipedia. Ans-mo (talk) 11:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

A little bit, goes a long way, and you still have four more Yaroslavs to go (well technically 3 since 2&3 are combined, if I'm not mistaken). See you around, --Riurik(discuss) 04:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Christianity in China[edit]


Just wanted to let you know that I deleted a large section of text that you copied from the Catholic Encyclopedia article. It's not that the information isn't helpful, but due to the ongoing effort and discussion at Talk:Christianity in China to make this a neutral article that doesn't assert the rightness or wrongness of the religion, I made the cutback. Too, when copying from old public domain sources, grammar and archaisms can be introduced that affect the flow of the article. Thanks for contributing, just wanted to explain things somewhat.Brian0324 (talk) 15:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for information. I think, that information from Catholic Encyclopedia could be used more detailly in the topic description, though it could be substantially rewrited and edited. Ans-mo (talk) 15:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

З Новим роком![edit]

DDima wishes you a Happy New Year!
—dima/talk/ 23:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Дякую! Вам також найкращі побажання з Новим роком! Ans-mo (talk) 07:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC).

З Новим Роком![edit]

Riurik wishes you a Happy 2008!

--Riurik(discuss) 21:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Дякую, Riurik! Вам бажаю також усього найліпшого в Новому році! Ans-mo (talk) 07:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Bible resources[edit]

Hi, I wondered why you added footnote links to Bible Resources as well as using {{bibleref}}. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I added content, which I believe, is relevant. As for formatting, I am not

a great expert in that, so I dont object using any relevant templates without changing the content. Ans-mo (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I have left the content which you added, and the Bibleref (which itself provides an external link), but removed the Bible Resources links. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for information. Ans-mo (talk) 10:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Allianz - Mission[edit]

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Copyright problems[edit]

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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you. SWik78 (talk) 14:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

It is a clear public domain resource, which is widely used all over Wikipedia. Ans-mo (talk) 14:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Street Children article[edit]

Greetings, I have been trying to contact anyone interested in this article with regard to a better version. I've not had much success so far and hope you will reply. almudo (talk) 12:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I am not a big expert in this topic, though I can make some copyediting or writing here. If you wish to make the article better, nobody prevents you from doing writing and editing. As for me, I am ready to take some part depending on my knowledge.Ans-mo (talk) 12:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Addition. I watched the history of the article and I think, that it was not wholy right to revert your contributions. But I think, that you should also take into account the rules of Wikipedia, which dont support any interested side view. So it is better to begin with minor or small text insertions or editing without trying to propagate any ideas. As for me, I am for the all kind of assistance to street children, but the rules of the encyclopedia demand neutrality.Ans-mo (talk) 12:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


Hello. On the Protestants in Ukraine article, I just wonder if you checked those three links conform to WP:EL - that they indeed contain "meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to their reliability". After all, #1 is just a single church, #2 is someone's diary and #3 is about a music mission not mentioned elsewhere in the text.
And another point - as the Mormons are soon to open their first temple in Eastern Europe in Kiev soon, do you think something on Mormons in Ukraine would be good to have? I know Mormons aren't usually considered Protestants, so maybe a separate article would be needed, or at least a paragraph in Religion in Ukraine. Biruitorul (talk) 22:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your information. Maybe the first two of the mentioned three links could be used just as examples of Protestant activities in Ukraine, in spite of their not full conformity and relevance. As for the third link, I think it should be present for illustrating activities of well-known Protestant denomination (Presbyterian). Those links are in English, so English speaking community could have more idea about the topic.
As for mormons, I dont think, that they should be present in the article on Protestants. They are generally not considered as Protestants and present separate type of ideology.Ans-mo (talk) 06:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, yes, I agree we should keep the Mormons in a separate place, but like I said, a paragraph at least in Religion in Ukraine would not be amiss. I'll try and see if I can find anything on the subject. Biruitorul (talk) 16:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Frankly speaking, Mormons are not very noticeable in Ukraine. As for me, I am not a supporter of their ideology representation. Though, everyone has the right to express his view. Ans-mo (talk) 09:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter[edit]

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Problem with edit summary at History of Jews in Ukraine[edit]

You accused me of vandalism in this edit summary (Reverted vandalism, what is "unencyclopedic" in the passage from Encyclopedia article? The passage could be edited, but why delete all section?).

While you disagreed with the edit, it was clearly not vandalism: Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles. Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism.

Please be more careful not to make ill-considered accusations. Jd2718 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

To my mind, some kind of mentioning of Jewish Cossacks should be remained in the article. I recognize my excessive estimation and that such edit maybe was not a vandalism, but deleting the whole section, by my opinion, was inappropriate. Anyway, this section is deleted, so your point of view, which you consider to be right, has prevailed. Thank you for taking your time and expressing your opinion.Ans-mo (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. We'll take it back to the article's talk page. Jd2718 (talk) 12:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi I'm sorry to be random but could you please tell me what the following means: "toi cung biet noi tieng Viet voi trinh do trung binh. Anh/Chi hoc tieng viet o dau?" Thanks in advance. TeePee-20.7 (talk) 10:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the meaning is:"I can also speak Vietnamese language on intermediate level. Where did you (Mr./Mrs.) study Vietnamese language?". Something like that. Ans-mo (talk) 13:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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