User talk:AtLeastJeffersonLives

Welcome![edit]

Hello, AtLeastJeffersonLives, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Helix- Where an I incorrect?[edit]

Obvious troll? That makes me a troll that was on WP eight years before you. "ranting about the originality of zombies and then vampires when this show features neither." No? To quote the existing article before I touched it: "Those infected with the second virus become dangerously violent zombie-like 'Vectors' ". You think I'm confused? You obviously have a very short memory or don'r read or go to the movies very often. I stated the plot is the same basic plot as 28 Weeks Later, which it is. Infected zombified humans try to kill or infect the surviving normal humans. Which is based on the chain of stories that I listed, as stated at length on the WP article of The Omega Man. Where am I incorrect? --pikipiki (talk) 06:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, you created an account on a website before another person. To the point, any edit which contains the phrase "It doesn't end there" and speculates about a long-dead author living to 200 years old... well, is made either in jest or by someone who doesn't quite understand the word "encyclopedia." I'll take the former. AtLeastJeffersonLives (talk) 07:26, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I may have perhaps gotten a little carried away once I started. You could have removed the part about Stokes living to 160. The point was, the same plot has been reused more than a dozen times in recent memory, as stated on no less a reference than WP, in articles that I never touched, and is based on 200 year old vampire lore, which it is. Night of the living dead used a space borne virus, The Omega Man changed the spreading epidemic a by product of chemical warfare. 28 days changed it back to a highly contagious virus, that makes people stronger and want to kill other people and make more zombies/vampires/undead/vectors,or whatever you want to call them, it's all the same. Helix tells the same story in a hi-tech lab. whoopee! That was the point. If you were familiar with some or all of the references I cited in my addition you would have noticed that. pikipiki (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You want to have the opinion that the zombie genre has become stale and dependent on similar origin stories? That's fine. You want to have the opinion that Helix falls under the same category. That's fine. You can take that to a blog or a message board. On Wikipedia, you can create a criticisms section on the literary zombies page; you can create a reception section on the Helix page and document the opinion of a critic who has expressed a similar point. Opinions should be presented on Wikipedia objectively as the viewpoint of a third party proponent, never as the author of the article preaching directly to the reader. I'm starting to think you do need to be told that an encyclopedia is a reference work that summarizes information in an objective manner for the purpose of providing condensed knowledge on various topics. I didn't remove your edit because I disagreed with the points you were making. I don't care what your opinion is regarding zombies in literature or the quality of Helix. I removed your edit because that type of assertive, opinionated and frankly proselytizing language is completely inappropriate for any encyclopedic source in general, let alone the plot section of a specific television show. I haven't been debating the merits of your opinions and I won't start, because this is, again, an encyclopedic source that shouldn't contain any of the authors' opinions. You can take your personal opinions to a zombie forum or a Helix message board. That's all there is to it. AtLeastJeffersonLives (talk) 20:31, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]