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Hi BlueD954, thanks for getting back to me. It's just that previously that page had integrated the offices as one piece of information so the role was Minister of State for Middle East & North Africa instead of Minister for Middle East & North Africa, Minister of State. I had followed this format because it seemed more concise as it coalesced the information into a single piece. Also I'd like to clarify what you mean when you write that you want to put rank and appointment first. Obviously rank means Secretary of State, Minister of State etc but what do you mean by appointment?
I'd also like to agree with you on how it's been difficult to find information. I've been using Ministerial appointments: February 2020 for most of my information.
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