User talk:Bruceherwig

Welcome!

Hello, Bruceherwig, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Elizabeth Inrig, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 19:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Elizabeth Inrig

A tag has been placed on Elizabeth Inrig requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 19:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright policy advisement regarding articles

Dear Bruceherwig, regarding your contribution to Elizabeth Inrig, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from web sites or printed material without the express permission of the author or copyright holder. This article appears to be a direct copy from this URL: http://www.trinityonline.org/cgi-bin/index.cgi?section=women&name=wot_elizabeth As a copyright violation, the article has been deleted under the speedy deletion criteria.

If you choose to recreate the article, please ensure that the material is written in your own words. If you believe that using sentences from the source is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), then you should do one of the following:

If you have permission from the author, leave a message explaining the details at the talk page of the new article and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GNU Free Documentation License, or released into the public domain leave a note at the talk page of the new article with a link to where we can find that note.
If you own the copyright to the material, you may either send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to <permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on the talk page of the article, or place a note releasing the material as above at the external site. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions.

Thank you. Slp1 (talk) 20:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright policy advisement regarding articles

Dear Bruceherwig, regarding your contribution to Gary Inrig, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from web sites or printed material without the express permission of the author or copyright holder. This article appears to be a direct copy from this URL: http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/about/gary_inrig As a copyright violation, the article has been deleted under the speedy deletion criteria.

If you choose to recreate the article, please ensure that the material is written in your own words. If you believe that using sentences from the source is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), then you should do one of the following:

If you have permission from the author, leave a message explaining the details at the talk page of the new article and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GNU Free Documentation License, or released into the public domain leave a note at the talk page of the new article with a link to where we can find that note.
If you own the copyright to the material, you may either send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to <permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on the talk page of the article, or place a note releasing the material as above at the external site. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions.

Slp1 (talk) 20:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Hi Bruce, Thanks for your message. There are three basic problems.

Your articles were deleted in the first instance because they were basically copy and pastes from other websites, and we cannot permit this kind of copyright material to be added to WP for legal reasons. You could always rewrite the material to solve this problem and there are other solutions above.
The second problem is about the issue of whether WP wants and needs articles about these subjects. For that you need to consult these pages WP:BIO and WP:CORP which are the guidelines for what sort of articles WP wants. I'm sure you understand that we don't need articles about every pastor and every pastor's wife and every church; articles here need to meet certain criteria of what we call notability. The guidelines will give you idea of the sort of thing you need to prove notability: in short, some independent, mainstream reliable sources about the individuals or the church. Articles in newspapers about them (not just mentioning them) etc are just the ticket. You will be well placed to know if there are these kinds of sources out there.
The third problem we can't do much about, which is that judging by your username, you actually work for the church and therefore are in a conflict of interest about these articles. You will want to read conflict of interest to see what is recommended for somebody in your situation. Basically, it is a bit delicate, because of the danger that you (quite naturally) are basically motivated by a desire to promote your pastors and your church.

Something also to consider: sometimes creating articles can backfire. Since anybody can edit them, negative material can get added, and as long as it is sourced, it will stay. Some people have wished they had never started an article, frankly! Anyway, those are the issues. Let me know if I can help in any other way. If you do decide that they are notable, and you want to try the rewrite, I could give you copies of the deleted articles for you to work on. --Slp1 (talk) 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]