User talk:Canadacorps

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Preview

I noticed that you've been making many small edits to Edmonton Strutters Drum & Bugle Corps. You will probably find that using the "preview" button instead of saving each change individually is much faster. --UncleDouggie (talk) 08:51, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

UncleDouggie, Thank you. I'm just barely learning how to use Wikipedia, so there will be things that take some time, as a lot of the options aren't very easy to understand, and this html coding stuff is like trying to learn ancient Greek to me. The article I'm working on is of the utmost importance to me, as I've spent much of my life either as a member of, or serving this organization. I'm hoping to make it good, eventually.Canadacorps (talk) 08:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, you're doing much better than most newcomers. It's best to learn things as you need them. And the next thing would be our copyright policy. Policies are strictly enforced whereas guidelines allow for exceptions. I see that parts of your article have come from the official website, such as the Mission Statement, which the website show as "Copyright © 2005 - 2009 Strutters Drum Corps". This isn't permitted, even if you don't think the copyright owner will object. The copyright policy page gives you many options, including requesting permission from the owner or rewriting the text to not be infringing. I wouldn't count too much on getting permission because of the broad license that is required for all Wikipedia content. --UncleDouggie (talk) 13:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)|[reply]

UncleDouggie, I'm the website administrator of the official page, I built the page myself and all the content on it is written by me. How do I give myself permission to use my content on here? Canadacorps (talk) 18:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The options to do this are explained here. The problem people typically run into is that material they have created as part of their employment is copyrighted by their employer unless they have a contract stating otherwise, in which case the website shouldn't have the current copyright notice. If you're not actually employed by them, you still need to figure out who really owns the copyright. --UncleDouggie (talk) 03:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Reply

UncleDouggie, I am employed by the organization, but I am volunteering my efforts to run the website. The copyright notice is one I put in place simply to protect the content I am publishing on the official website, but I have permission to use the material elsewhere. Canadacorps (talk) 09:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you run the official website, I should mention that we also have a Conflict of Interest guideline. This doesn't prevent you from editing the article. In fact, we need your expertise and most of all your pictures. However, I recommend a few precautions. First, create a user page for yourself and state what your relationship is to the organization. A key concern is whether you or your employer benefits from having this article on Wikipedia. Second, ask for some neutral editors to review your work in light of your stated relationship. I'll be happy to do so.

New reply 2

UncleDouggie, user page created. there is no benefit to the organization or myself from having this page. The article is here so that people who are interested in it can learn about the organization.. Yes, I would greatly appreciate it if you helped to edit this article.Canadacorps (talk) 09:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Third, accept the fact that others are going to edit your work, perhaps substantially, to match the quality expected of all Wikipedia articles. And lastly, contribute to some other Wikipedia articles to show that your primary interest is the quality of Wikipedia rather than promoting your organization. Working on existing articles will also help you gain valuable editing experience. It's unfortunately not very hard to find articles that need some tidying up. At least 50% of what you find by clicking "random article" needs work. --UncleDouggie (talk) 03:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New reply #3

UncleDouggie, I am totally fine with that. In fact, I would much prefer that the work be changed substantially. My aim was to get the article started, and I have been hoping that the user community on Wikipedia could assist me in creating an Encyclopedia worthy article. I plan to help out in Wikipedia also, as I've already assisted with another article.. However, I didn't want to just leave the Edmonton Strutters Drum & Bugle Corps article as is, without trying to get it looking somewhat acceptable first.Canadacorps (talk) 09:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

uploading images

I have a few useful images that I would like to upload to the Edmonton Strutters Drum & Bugle Corps page, but I think I'm not permitted to yet. Hopefully in a few days I can begin putting an image or two in there, as I reference uniforms a lot in the article and it would be nice to provide some visual aids, and possibly even an individual section specifically for visuals of all the uniform revisions (as there have been many).

Also it would be nice to get a group shot on from one of the years, or a performance candid or two of some past members.Canadacorps (talk) 09:05, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the upload page for free images, which is pretty much pictures you have taken yourself. The are very few cases in which you can upload an image from a website, and I don't think any of the exceptions would apply in this case. --UncleDouggie (talk) 13:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UncleDouggie, again with the pictures, all the pictures that are on the website are from my personal collection. I can't see any issues with me using my own pictures, although I have published some of them on our official website as well.Canadacorps (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a similar issue to the above. Did you assign the copyright of the images to the organization or do you still retain the rights? If you own the rights, all you need to do is state that they are your personal pictures when you upload them. You should also include an explanation of why the same images can be found on a copyrighted website in the description field of the uploaded images to prevent any future disputes over the status of the images. There should be no problem with images that you haven't posted on the website. Let me know if you need any help getting them uploaded and into the article. --UncleDouggie (talk) 03:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Hey Canadacorps,

Excuse me for intruding, but most users reply on the other user's talk page, which you can access by pressing the link that says "talk" next to their name.

It's not HTML though, it's alot more intuitive. Lemme know if you need any help! Doc Quintana (talk) 09:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Canadacorps did the right thing because my talk page says to reply here! --UncleDouggie (talk) 13:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, my bad! Well, now he knows how to find other talk pages, eh? Doc Quintana (talk) 22:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]