User talk:Dettenbach
Deletion discussion about XEN-SHELL2
[edit]Hello, Dettenbach,
I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether XEN-SHELL2 should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/XEN-SHELL2 .
If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
Thanks,
Mduvekot (talk) 21:04, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Some policies you may want to read
[edit]Hello, Dettenbach. I noticed that you have only edited one article here (which you also created), XEN-SHELL2. I am not accusing you of anything, but you may want to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest and paid editing rules — note that the latter applies even to unpaid employees such as interns and volunteers.
As you will probably have noticed if you're reading this, the XEN-SHELL2 article has been nominated for deletion because it does not seem to meet Wikipedia's notability standard. You can demonstrate the software's notability (if it meets the WP standard) by citing several reliable sources, each independent of the subject, in the article. Should you find such sources only after the article is deleted, you can ask an administrator (such as the one who finally deleted the article) to move the deleted article into your user sandbox or "draft space" where you can work on adding the source citations prior to recreating the article.
If you have any questions, you can ask here (just "ping" me by including {{u|GrammarFascist}} in your response), or by going to the Teahouse, a friendly place for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 22:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hello GrammarFascist,
- sorry for confusing here a bit.
- My last time i've edited/ contributed something to WP is many years ago (in the earlier beginnings of WP) with a username not longer accessible to me / not remembering. I'm not aware about the policy that no software maintainer nor any employee / volunteer or similiar is allowed to write a article about a open source project. I saw many articles in the past (even from commercial products!) which was written by employees of the companies or (paid) third web editors and similiar. As a hobby, i've run a regio wiki ( http://eichsfeldwiki.de/ ) as a strictly non-commercial, community driven project - this would not live without the autorship of company owners, project maintainers etc. as they often are "on the source". Sorry, if this is against policies here (but means in practice: if i find a WP editor who is "writing" the arcticle - as seems usual in many cases it seems - this may be accepted... Ok).
- Regarding public sources i've collected here some first thing's i've found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/XEN-SHELL2 - not shure if this was/is the correct discussing page, as i'm nearly a "newbie" on todays WP. As a open source geek i'm far from the intention do do something abusive to a project like WP, but I'm not a deeper expert to WP policies too (which seems changed a bit over the last decades). Is it alternatively possible to just place a direct link to the project within the list of software on Xen instead of to a/these dedicated WP-arcticle? If not - who can i reach some regarding editor of that arcticle to recommend him / point him? Sorry for the noise and thank you for your help. Dettenbach (talk) 09:33, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hello again, Dettenbach. It is not WP policy that connected contributors may not ever edit articles about subjects that have a relation to, but it is policy that such editors are strongly discouraged from editing such articles, and instead "COI (conflict of interest) editors" are encouraged to suggest improvements on the talk pages of such articles.
- It is also WP policy that any editor who is employed by an organization or individual they wish to write about, even if they are an unpaid intern or volunteer, must disclose their employee status, preferably on both their user page and the talk page of any article they want to contribute to that they have a COI regarding, but at minimum in one of those places. Failure to disclose paid editor status may (and often does) lead to the offending user being blocked from editing (although it is common for such blocks to be lifted if the user was in violation unknowingly, or makes a compelling case that they have learned their lesson).
- I am an open source supporter but far from a geek in that area; to be quite honest, I can't make heads or tails of the XEN-SHELL2 article, so I can't advise you on content issues. What I can do is suggest you post on either the Xen article's talk page or the talk pages of people who have edited that article, or both; that should hopefully bring some people to the discussion who can contribute meaningfully. Note that you may be accused of canvassing (trying to stack the discussion with people you believe will take your side, so be careful in selecting users... or, alternately, simply choose all the editors who contributed to the Xen article most recently, aside from vandals and anyone who merely made small copy-editing or formatting changes, and within reason (don't ping 20 people; even 10 might be too many).
- I hope this addresses all of your concerns. If not, or if you ever have any further questions, feel free to return to the Teahouse for more help.
- P.S. When replying to someone on a talk page, use a colon : at the beginning of every paragraph; this causes your text to be indented. You should use one more colon than the person you're replying to did: thus, I used one colon (since you used zero) and you should use two :: when replying to this comment of mine. And don't forget to sign with four tildes. Thanks! —GrammarFascist contribstalk 21:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi GrammarFascist, many thanks for your time and explanations. This is very helpful to me as i'm far from beeing (even a bit more) "experienced" WP editor and this few infos brought me steps forward. I'm fully understand the reasons behind, because it is very difficult to get a objective or neutral viewpoint onto a project with own dedication to it. And sorry for my bad written english... Best wishes, Niels
- P.S. When replying to someone on a talk page, use a colon : at the beginning of every paragraph; this causes your text to be indented. You should use one more colon than the person you're replying to did: thus, I used one colon (since you used zero) and you should use two :: when replying to this comment of mine. And don't forget to sign with four tildes. Thanks! —GrammarFascist contribstalk 21:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)