User talk:EyesOfFire

Hello,

It seems you have a bit of an edit war going on with some pages related to Real Life Ministries

Your editing was probably reverted because it may be a violation of the neutral point of view (NPOV) policy. Your submissions appear to be your opinion based upon anecdotal postings in response to a news story. There are also factual errors regarding the availability of financial statements. The church leadership has been very responsive to any interest in their growth plans and has even solicited questions from the congregation, furthermore they are making their financial statements available to anyone who wants them.

In light of these facts, it would be greatly appreciated if you would modify your comments to conform to the neutral point of view (NPOV) policy.

Thank You Bg357 04:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've also reverted some of your edits. The allegations you are making require supporting evidence just like any other fact or assertion in Wikipedia. If you can find verifiable evidence supporting your edits, please feel free to add them back to the articles. If you need help adding the reference(s), please let me know and I'll be happy to help! --ElKevbo 04:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ElKevbo, forgive me for not understanding the difference between a talk page and a user page... still finding my way around here. I hope this response is on the right page. Please show me how to insert evidence, evidence I have to back my claims. Also, Real Life Ministries is not the fastest growing mega-church as stated, I have no idea where that claim came from. Thank you for your patience!

The 'fastest growing Christian church claim' was reported in the CdA Press and was determined through statistical analysis by Christian Standardmagazine. Here is a pdf of the statistical analysis from 2004, same claim - different percentages. The 2006 analysis apparently isn't yet available as a pdf file.

Bg357 08:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bg357...That's interesting because in 2005 it shows Real Life Ministries as number 8, not number one. What was written about Real Life Ministries in the Coeur d'Alene press was information provided by the church to the paper simular to what is being provided to this site and this information is inaccurate. Both hit the same time, the articles in the Coeur d'Alene press and this webpage in this site. I would ask ElKevbo to do some research on the links Bg357 provided you with. Unfortunately Bg357 is using Wiki to give Real Life Ministries credibility for purposes other than reporting facts hoping you will not check the links. You're being used Wiki. Thank you EyesOfFire

Wikipedia is a database of information, verifiable from published sources. Your personal problems with the information provided in this article should be taken up with the publisher of this information. If they've made an error and publish a retraction, you can make changes here with the appropriate supportive links.

As for your claims about the 2005 analysis, Real Life Ministries is listed as #8 in total attendance, which has nothing to do with growth rates. In the 2005 analysis, Real Life Ministries is listed as the fastest growing church over the past 2yrs. The claims made in the published article are based on a 4yr growth period, hence the differing percentages. Bg357 23:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]