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June 2018

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Hello, and welcome to editing Wikipedia. Unfortunately, however, there were several problems with the draft article which you created at Draft:Ormer Mayfair, including the following.

The page was written in unambiguously promotional terms, reading more like an advertisement for the restaurant than like a neutral encyclopaedia article. A Wikipedia article must be written from a neutral point of view, and editing for the purpose of promoting, publicising, or advertising anything is not permitted by Wikipedia policy.

If the promotional nature of the draft were the only problem I would have merely declined the submission, and advised you to edit it to make it more acceptable. However, there was also a more serious problem. It is almost never suitable to copy content from another web site to Wikipedia, for more than one reason, the most important being copyright. When you post anything to Wikipedia you release it for anyone in the world to reuse it, either unchanged or modified in any way whatever, subject to attribution to Wikipedia. It is very rare that the owner of a web site licenses content for such very free reuse, and in those few occasions when they do so, we require proof of the fact. We don't assume that content is freely licensed on the unsubstantiated say so of just anyone who comes along and creates a Wikipedia account. In this case content was copied from sources which certainly do not permit such reuse: see, for example, the Telegraph's terms and conditions of use, which explicitly exclude such use. Consequently I have deleted the page.

Another point that you should be aware of is that if you are connected to the restaurant or its owners then you should be aware that Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline discourages you from writing about that subject. The main reason for that is that experience over the years indicates that editors with such a connection to a subject they are writing about are likely to find it very difficult, or even impossible, to stand back from their writing and see how it will look from the detached perspective of an outsider, so that they are likely to write in ways that look promotional to others, even if they sincerely think they are writing in a neutral way. Also, if your editing forms all or part of work for which you are paid, whether as an employee, as a contractor, or in any other capacity, the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use require you to state who is paying you, and what your connection to them is.

My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. Of course that advice may not appeal to you if your only interest is in using Wikipedia to publicise your restaurant, and you have no wish to contribute in other ways, but in that case Wikipedia is not the right place for you. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]