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Three Caballeros[edit]
Descendants (franchise)[edit]
Is it time to ask for protection here? We've gotten that same edit over and over again from a parade of IPs... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Disney Princess 11/09/18[edit]
Yes I purposely removed what I deleted under Aurora's section in the Disney Princess page. Its pointless to put information about Aurora being a "object" that they are all after when she is definitely a character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starwarrior2014 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Starwarrior2014: You need to leave a reason when you delete stuff from an article, particularly well-referenced information. The point was she was being treated as an object, not that she was one so the info looked valid in that context anyway. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:50, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
For you![edit]
I'll let you get this one, as they ignored the intent my previous edit summary on the subject (in adding unsourced bio info to a WP:BLP, and in ignoring WP:STUBSPACING again...).
--IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:12, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Violett Beane[edit]
Could use more eyes on this one – another "names as per common name" situation. I've posted to the Talk page about it as well. Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:05, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: It's not that the "fuller name" seems to be "falsified" – it's that it's not the "common name", as I pointed out on the Talk page. The other issue, here, is that particular editor is now edit-warring. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:51, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: He added "Jesse Chambers-Wells" which is not supported by anything in show, not "Jesse Chambers Wells" which has some in-universe support as shown in Jesse Chambers. Chambers-Wells is a surname, Chamber Wells is "Chambers", a middle name followed by "Wells" the surname. The hyphen significantly matters. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:27, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Ah – got it... I don't watch The Flash anymore, but I don't even remember where the middle name "Chambers" was mentioned – it must have been a "one-off" comment in a single episode... Regardless, I agree that it's not the WP:COMMONNAME (and List of The Flash characters probably also needs to be "cleaned up" on this score, as per WP:TVCAST...). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:35, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: He added "Jesse Chambers-Wells" which is not supported by anything in show, not "Jesse Chambers Wells" which has some in-universe support as shown in Jesse Chambers. Chambers-Wells is a surname, Chamber Wells is "Chambers", a middle name followed by "Wells" the surname. The hyphen significantly matters. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:27, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Melanie Scrofano is another article where there's been persistent added unsourced content/WP:BLP vios added over a pretty long period of time – this article I've even had semiprotected once or twice. So more eyes here would be welcome. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Geraldo you keep reverting edits by User:Deathstroke64 on this page. Based on edit history, most of Deathstroke's edits since registering on 23 February 2018 are either on the article Violett Beane, on its talk page, or arguing about Violett Beane on other pages. Don't you think this sounds as a Wikipedia:Single-purpose account? Dimadick (talk) 17:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Dimadick: Yes but not just on this topic but mostly about one specific credit. He does no other edits and is just trying to push one thing. I had hoped trying to engage in discussion with him would solve the problem, but it looks like he has chosen to ignore the discussions so far and resume his slow motion edit war. Next steps will likely be ANI or ANEW and some blocks to get his attention. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I know in my heart that the information I have is correct, so please just let me do what I came to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathstroke64 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's not how Wikipedia works. What you know ≠ inclusion. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- To me, it sounds like the point you’re making is that because Wikipedia is not a reliable source, we should be trying to maintain incorrect information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathstroke64 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Quite the opposite, actually. We should only maintain correct information. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:43, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Then why do you insist on interfering with my work — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathstroke64 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Because your "work" is not correct, no matter how many times you claim it is. It is called original research. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Then why do you insist on interfering with my work — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathstroke64 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Quite the opposite, actually. We should only maintain correct information. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:43, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- To me, it sounds like the point you’re making is that because Wikipedia is not a reliable source, we should be trying to maintain incorrect information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathstroke64 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's not how Wikipedia works. What you know ≠ inclusion. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- I know in my heart that the information I have is correct, so please just let me do what I came to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathstroke64 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Deathstroke64 is still at it, though their edit has changed. Not sure what to do here... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:08, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: ANI or AIAV. Amaury (talk | contribs) 03:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- AIV will almost certainly decline this one, and ANI is unlikely to yield satisfaction. I think ANEW is the only play here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall and Amaury: From a AGF perspective, the last edit appears to be an attempt at a compromise and also an attempt to do what we said was needed, the credited or common name used in the project. I see that as positive progress here. I'd give it a bit more time to see how this plays out before pulling the trigger on an ANI report. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall and Amaury: and then continued to keep pushing it against a reasoned revert. Sigh. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:46, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- AIV will almost certainly decline this one, and ANI is unlikely to yield satisfaction. I think ANEW is the only play here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Edit warring on Ice Age: Continental Drift[edit]
Hi. Sorry, I kept adding incorrect information as I did to Ice Age: Continental Drift. I believe that the live-action footage of the voice actors recording at the end is correct, but adding the category "Films with live-action and animation" is incorrect, so I better not do that again. Joeymiskulin (talk) 00:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Joeymiskulin: This is footage of the actors not in character, not really part of the film itself. That category is more for films like Song of the South where there is strong integration throughout the film. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:46, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez:Yeah, but according to IMDb, the characters are singing We are (Family) with live-action footage of their voice actors in the recording booth in the first half of the credits. Sorry. Joeymiskulin (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Joeymiskulin: That is the actors as themselves recorded voicing their parts. There are no live-action characters in the film. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Yeah, there are no live-action characters. Only actors recording their voices in the studio. It's like a behind the scenes documentary. Joeymiskulin (talk) 23:31, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez:Yeah, but according to IMDb, the characters are singing We are (Family) with live-action footage of their voice actors in the recording booth in the first half of the credits. Sorry. Joeymiskulin (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Cameron Seely[edit]
According to IMDb, that's the same Cameron Seely in both movies. If that's correct, then that WP:DABPAGE is erroneous, and looks like it needs to be deleted or converted to a redirect... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: But IMDb is not a source we can rely on for bio info so we officially don't know that unless there is some reliable source that states it is the same person. If it is the same person then the page should be a stub, but as a stub it will be deleted per WP:NACTOR. It used to be a redirect, there are two potential targets, why pick one over the other and what benefit does it serve to link her name in one movie article and get redirected to, what looks like to a reader, a totally irrelevant other movie article when they click on the name for information. If we make no determination that it is the same person and just say this name is mentioned in two places a DAB page is appropriate. That way if the name is linked it gets flagged as a link to a DAB page. If someone searches, they get at least some useful info. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I dunno – I guess the question is: can you have a WP:DABPAGE when neither "subject" has an article?... And this situation is even worse, as this is likely a DABPAGE for the same person! I'm in the camp that thinks this one should just be deleted, but I don't know the process for this. (Would this situation fall under WP:RfD?...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Use a regular AfD for a dab page. I wouldn't mind seeing it deleted as it is a bit of a kluge. I just do not want to see a redirect at that location and that seems to be a common result of delete discussions. A stub that met NACTOR would be best but don't think that is possible yet. I think a DAB page is OK without a link to at least one person's article as long as there is exactly one blue link per entry with something about the person at the target. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:21, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Done: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cameron Seely. I've never tried to delete a WP:DABPAGE before, so I have no idea what will happen here. But in this case, I think a DABPAGE causes more confusion than it solves... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:28, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Use a regular AfD for a dab page. I wouldn't mind seeing it deleted as it is a bit of a kluge. I just do not want to see a redirect at that location and that seems to be a common result of delete discussions. A stub that met NACTOR would be best but don't think that is possible yet. I think a DAB page is OK without a link to at least one person's article as long as there is exactly one blue link per entry with something about the person at the target. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:21, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I dunno – I guess the question is: can you have a WP:DABPAGE when neither "subject" has an article?... And this situation is even worse, as this is likely a DABPAGE for the same person! I'm in the camp that thinks this one should just be deleted, but I don't know the process for this. (Would this situation fall under WP:RfD?...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Bizaardvark#Series over after three seasons?[edit]
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bizaardvark#Series over after three seasons?. What do you think? (Ping IJBall and MPFitz1968, too.). Is that more definite or still wishy-washy. I'll be posting there shortly to clarify something. Amaury (talk | contribs) 00:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Jen Lilley[edit]
Geraldo, I find this WP:BLP to be consistently problematic. There's been a parade of IPs and editors that have been trying to add a bunch of frankly WP:UNDUE (and usually poorly sourced or unsourced) content to this article for months... Would reporting it to WP:BLPN do any good? Is there any other recourse here?... Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @IJBall: BLPN looks to be a good venue to bring this up. Some of the sources do look weak and the the added info a bit too effusive towards the subject of the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:23, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Done: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Jen Lilley. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Billy West[edit]
Hello Geraldo Perez, Take note that I reverted your removal of Detroit from the Billy West article. There are references added to back that he was from Detroit. Please in the future DO NOT REMOVE referenced material without a clear explanation of why it is being removed. If you continue this practice it may be construed as vandalism and you could be subject to disciplinary action by administrators including and not limited to temporary or permanent revocation of your editing privileges. Thank you for your cooperation. 23:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) So you're going to consider Geraldo a vandal for reverting an IP that removed content without explanation, which Geraldo did mention in his edit summary? All you had to do was re-add the Detroit part. There is no need for threats here. Amaury (talk | contribs) 00:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn't threatening... I was just pointing out Wikipedia's policies and the fact that Detroit was removed and then put back and then removed again multiple times. There is a valid reference to back his hometown and it should be left as is otherwise there could action taken for removal and violation of the 3RR end of story. YborCityJohn (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- What's the source? The podcast? Is there no better sourcing for that?! It's no wonder that Geraldo would have missed that – it's why citing print sources are vastly preferable for bio info... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:08, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- His OFFICIAL website that where. YborCityJohn (talk) 01:13, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- What's the source? The podcast? Is there no better sourcing for that?! It's no wonder that Geraldo would have missed that – it's why citing print sources are vastly preferable for bio info... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:08, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn't threatening... I was just pointing out Wikipedia's policies and the fact that Detroit was removed and then put back and then removed again multiple times. There is a valid reference to back his hometown and it should be left as is otherwise there could action taken for removal and violation of the 3RR end of story. YborCityJohn (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @YborCityJohn: I am a bit surprised at the intensity of the rebuke here. When I was checking the edit I reverted, I saw a significant amount of content being removed and I reverted with the message "Unexplained removal of content" as the removal of content didn't have a reason. I didn't notice that the IPv6 had added a word in amongst the stuff that was deleted. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: The thing is I saw that someone had removed his hometown over and over again and unfortunately you got right in the middle of something that was not your doing and it was at a moment when I happen to overact and I apologize for that. I just get annoyed at IP users who put nonsense in Wikipedia pages because they think its f***ing funny, I have to deal with stuff like that a lot of the pages I follow like WMGM-TV where the IP user keeps putting that the station is an NBC affiliate when it has been one for more than a few years. So if I came off as being an jerk and an a**hole again I apologize. YborCityJohn (talk) 04:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)