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Happy editing! Acroterion (talk) 00:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

O-Six

Can you go to the article's talkpage and leave the notes there, including specific page numbers for the material you've added? It's not really the done thing to leave informal commentary and non-specific suggestions or links to broad sites that don't concern the narrow focus of the article. I will be glad to help with formatting the referencing - Wikipedia doesn't make it easy - if you can give us the detailed reference locations, as you would cite in a college paper. Facebook pages are rarely cited or linked to - see WP:EL. Acroterion (talk) 00:03, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll add references a little later this evening.Acroterion (talk) 00:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

2022 brought a lot of scientific stuff to strengthen Yellowstone wolves genealogy and stories, especially wolves number 832F (O-Six), 302M, 21M, 42F, 472F, 113M, 755M and 926F to name important ones (as to wolves having a wiki page or being important in those that have). See 302M and O-Six for the new sources of informations and stuff their lives. Cheers ! Gimly24 (talk) 20:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks to both of you ! Gimly24 (talk) 02:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

On editing WP

While editing Wikipedia these days is a steeper climb than back in the day when someone could just write about [Blue] (in 2001) Blue (now), we always (or should always) try to help new users. Over 20 years the sourcing policies have become extensive, so don't worry about not immediately knowing what's a valid reference or how to format, these things come with time. You clearly are helping to improve things, so don't worry if other editors take issue with things like Facebook sourcing and so on. I wrote the original articles, and am happy to see someone take an interest in them and to update them based on current scholarship - so please be encouraged. I will be happy to answer questions as they come up and as time allows. You've found your way to my talkpage, so that's a good step, and now you know about article talkpages. Acroterion (talk) 02:31, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Indeed lol. I will for sure if i have any questions. Thanks ! Gimly24 (talk) 02:34, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, alphas, beta, omega wolves is pretty much dead. L.D Mech, with which i did communicate a few times recently, made a video on youtube about it a while ago. « Alphas wolves ? ».

Dominant breeder, breeder, second ranking male, subordinate males. Gimly24 (talk) 02:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

We definitely want to use current terminology rooted in scholarship - and my knowledge is based on general reading rather than an academic focus, so suggestions from a subject expert are welcome. Just remember that referencing one's own research is almost always discouraged, since it's a form of original research - we get a lot of people who think they're experts or who have a pet theory, so that's one way of screening them out of a user-generated knowledge base - see WP:Randy in Boise. However, as that essay points out, real experts are still welcome - see all the links below the text.

I'll return to the article and the reports you provided and see if I can work out some updates when I'm feeling a little smarter - it's been a long day. Acroterion (talk) 02:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Actually, Mech was the creator of the terms "Alphas Wolves" in his Book "The Wolf" (1970). With years of research (this is more than 50 years in his case, his thesis dates from 1962), packs dynamics and organisation got thouroughly studied and it was demonstrated that females lead the pack, not the males.

That previous concept of alphas was dropped around 2008 by every expert or so. You could even see it in the way the Yellowstone Reports are written.

"we get a lot of people who think they're experts or who have a pet theory, so that's one way of screening them out of a user-generated knowledge base - see WP:Randy in Boise. However, a that essay points out, real experts are still welcome."

yes, that is true. Although, he had nearly 50 years of research done then [in 2008] and around 60 years of research made on wolves now. But you're right. Gimly24 (talk) 02:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

How do you space your replies ?

            like it isn't hitting the space bar many times, right ? It must be easier... Gimly24 (talk) 02:57, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, do not know how or why it did the weird rectangle darker box.Gimly24 (talk) 03:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

You indent by putting colons in front, by convention one more colon than the last comment in the thread. Spaces kust give you that Courier look and the gray box. It's a quirk of Wikimarkup.

Don't get me wrong on scholarship - sticking to reliably published academic research (there's a lot of unreliably published academic research) is where we want to be, and we use previous research to inform current research. For medical articles, it's a constant issue. It's a process, and always will be. In this case, a brief footnote might be in order to clarify current and anachronistic terminology- but that's a even harder formatting issue, so I will have to help with that if you can give me a reference to back it up. Acroterion (talk) 03:14, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

It's still enough unclear to me to make you change anything. But here's the video I was talking about, if you are interested, the title of the video is : "Alpha" Wolf? which you can find on Youtube (wikipedia doesn't allow me to post the link)

It would be still foolhardy to try to correct a immense population of internauts, especially for such a popular animal. I guess the page "grey wolf" must have a tons of edits by weeks. I was just saying the alpha/dominant breeding males/females for your informations "not as a straight no no" Gimly24 (talk) 03:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

OH yes, i came by hilarious unreliable wolf studies hahahaha. 118 kg grey wolf bs in some ukrainian papers.Gimly24 (talk) 03:35, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I meant that it would help if you had a reference that discusses the terminology shift, so we can mention it in a footnote in the O-Six article, since much of the coverage uses the older term.

I’ll sign in tomorrow, I’m signing off for the evening. Acroterion (talk) 03:43, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I'le see for the reference. The video is there (But of course that ain't the reference). I will look for a reference tomorrow shortly but not too much.Gimly24 (talk) 03:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

https://wolf.org/headlines/44265/ ("Why alpha wolf is misleading") and this article on the International Wolf Center is likely the study that explains exactly what we are looking for. https://www.wolf.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/267alphastatus_english.pdf Gimly24 (talk) 03:52, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. Acroterion (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

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Neotoma insularis

Since you made this article, you should review the species it was split from and ensure all of the information there is correct to the more strict sense for it, and if there is information that is relevant to the new species, move it over. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok. I will do that. Thank you for mentioning it :) Gimly24 (talk) 01:22, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

I will look at it again tomorrow. I don't want to copy-paste the description given in Desert woodrat#Description. I could for general length estimate and color tho. Gimly24 (talk) 02:08, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Only if the citation supports, eh? :) - UtherSRG (talk) UtherSRG (talk) 11:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

yeah, of course. lol :) Gimly24 (talk) 12:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Can I use description from the Townsend 1912 paper where he described the species ? Or is this too old ? I think it's good to use but I need someone else opinion on it ! Thanks and enjoy your day :)

Gimly24 (talk) 13:07, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh yes! That's surely ok! But in your own words. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 13:41, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Awesome ! I will look at it after an edit i'm going to make on Caenolestes convelatus. Gimly24 (talk) 13:52, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I made some modifications. I didn't use Townsend description, because he was comparing with a species/population (Neotoma intermedia gliva) that isn't a current name used for any species... But in Patton et al. (2008) they did a small diagnose section and classification history so I added those two sections (moving/modifiying what you wrote to another wording about it being once considered a population of N. lepida. I hope it's correct ! Tell me if it isn't and if you have any other suggestions. Thanks much ! Gimly24 (talk) 15:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Assistance Request: Article Quality Rating

Hey again :)

Now that the Nubian ibex page is greatly expanded, I submitted it the WikiProject Mammals/Assessment page to be reassessed for quality. Currently it's rated as Start-Class, but I hope it's detailed enough for a higher rating.

Do you know someone who could take a look at it?

Thank you, and I hope the lab work is going well! Bbreslau (talk) 16:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I’m busy right now. I will answer to your questions later :) No offence Gimly24 (talk) 18:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bbreslau I could rate it as a C-class article, and possibly propose it as a B-Class IMO. But i never rated any article except those I made from Wikipedia:WikiProject Mammals/Missing mammal species, and "almost by default", I (we) would rate them as low-importance and stub-class articles.

I compare it to some others Ibex species pages. Alpine ibex is GA (Good article) (with a logo of a circle with a + in it on the upper right of the page).

@UtherSRG tagging you here. Am I able to change the rating of such an article (Nubian ibex) from Start-class to C-class, and i've seen talkpages of animals with "this page has been proposed as ""-class article, but it isn't reviewed yet. I think i saw that on a talk page of a C-class article that was being proposed to be raised to B-class, and was awaiting a review of some sort.

Are C- and B-class rises needing big reviews like how Talk:Japanese Serow had before gaining GA status or it less strict and can be modified without much review/assessment ? Thanks in advance for your input on this. Gimly24 (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you both for taking a look at it! I hope we can find a good way to assess it. Also, let me know if I can add some additional information in order to increase the quality further Bbreslau (talk) 16:07, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if there is a formal "move to C" or "move to B" process like there is for GA. I know Stub has just the bare bones, Start has some meat.... I guess C has some flesh? XD - UtherSRG (talk) 23:19, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the information and answer Uther :)

@Bbreslau, the Nubian page rating is now C-Class and proposed for B-class. See talk page of the article. Cheers Gimly24 (talk) 20:44, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much!! I appreciate the time you're putting into all of this :) Bbreslau (talk) 16:31, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Of course :) Thanks for bringing that article in our view again ! Have a nice day. Gimly24 (talk) 12:26, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Andean caenolestid

You added an reference to Andean caenolestid and then removed it. Now that you have had a chance to review the reference, do you want to restore it? Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:42, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

hi Eastmain, not really.. there is some morphometric data on the species in it but it talks more about other species of the genus Gimly24 (talk) 23:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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That draft serves no purposes now. Gimly24 (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

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