User talk:Gimpchat
Please do not add advertising or inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Nandesuka (talk) 18:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Please stop adding advertising or inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. Nandesuka (talk) 17:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Response...
I provided a link to a well established Expert Gimp Discussion site. There is no SPAM or advertising of any kind on the site. Maybe you should look up the definition of SPAM, The site is community supported and maintained. If links are allowed to sites like Gimp Talk, Gimper & Gimp Forums, which have ADs (SPAM), why is it not OK to list Gimp Chat? Or, does someone's butt have to be kissed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gimpchat (talk • contribs) 18:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- There are two issues with adding links to Gimpchat. First is that it is a chat forum, and those are specifically disallowed under the external link guidelines. Second, based on your username, it is your forum—you have a conflict of interest with it. Adding links to sites you have a conflict of interest with should be avoided, especially since it suggests that you're trying to get more people to view the forum—that is, advertising the forum. —C.Fred (talk) 19:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well that is utter nonsense. To your first point, there are links to four, count 'em four "chat forums" already listed on the page, as I've already pointed out. So how can you possibly claim that discussion forums are not allowed on Wilipedia. That is just not true.
- To your second point, what difference does it make who places the link there? I certainly want to let GIMP users know there is an AD free discussion site available to them. I have an interest in promoting GIMP because I believe in FOSS and I am a big supporter of GIMP. I certainly don't see any conflict of interests, as my only interest is providing help to GIMP users and a website where meaningful GIMP discussions can occur.
- I can send 100 people here tomorrow to add a link so this misguided notion of conflict of interest is absurd on its face. In 2 minutes, any competent editor could clearly see that Gimp Chat is simply a site that helps users with GIMP, develops new ideas/concepts and furthers the application. The idea that I'm a spammer is just absurd, when I have nothing to gain by providing the site and paying for it out of my own pocket. What we have here is a clique of editors, with some misguided sense of political correctness, who can't tell the difference between spam and legitimate information sites. It's really shameful. The way I see it, the policies in place here are actually hurting GIMP users, rather than seeking to be a useful to tool for them.
- After careful consideration of how I've been treated on this site, I no longer wish to be listed on here or have Gimp Chat associated with this site in any way. As a matter of fact, I'm going to publicize how I was treated on this site and expose the ridiculous, unfair and selective treatment that goes on here. No wonder Wikipedia is a discredited laughingstock on the Internet.