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Hello, Juliorobiana, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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October 2010[edit]

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Julio Robaina. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing. Wayne Olajuwon chat 01:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Julio Robaina, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. CliffC (talk) 19:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Julia Robiana, I'm just a stranger passing by, to avoid such issues as you observe above read WP-rules, in short, to make sure your statements are true you should provide some links, as the mayor of Hialeah, Florida, you should have some site, official site of the govt of Hialeah I don't know, contact your staff and nail statement down with a link, that's it. Don't make bad assumption of wikipedia beforehand, CliffC is just a picky wikipedian. 95.59.83.67 (talk) 00:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, 95.59.83.67, you have never edited Wikipedia before but you just happened to be wandering by and noticed this particular article out of more than three million? Amazing. Anyway, you are quite correct, Mr. Robiana does have an official site, but part of the problem here is that as it is written it is not a reliable source by any stretch of the imagination, and he and his little helper second account insist on copying it verbatim into the article and ignoring the good advice he's been given so far. I don't know if your advice will be any better received. --CliffC (talk) 02:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hi JulioRobiana. It seems you've run up against some of our core policies in that article, which is why your edits keep getting reverted. Please don't get into an edit-war over this, as those almost always lead to revocation of editing ability. Rather, here are some tips as to exactly what the problems are. Please click the links for more detailed information on each:

  • First, please review our Guidelines for editing when you have a potential Conflict Of Interest). In a nutshell, if you have a close connection to a topic (which you certainly appear to in this case), you are strongly discouraged from making direct edits to the article. I realize this seems counter-intuitive, as you would naturally assume to have the most knowledge of the topic. While this is often true, over time we have found that many such editors have a tendency, even unconsciously, to not maintain a Neutral Point of View in their edits. This doesn't mean we don't want the benefits of your knowledge (quote the contrary, we welcome it!), but just that you need to take special steps to ensure it gets added according to our policy. The best way to do this is to make edits to the article's Talk Page (the "discussion" tab that every article has), and describe the nature of the edits you want to make. Discussion then happens, and the agreed-upon text gets added to the article by an uninvolved editor, which keeps everything nice and neutral.
  • A larger problem was that the text entered appears to be a direct copy of this web page. That web page clearly is marked with a copyright notice, and "All rights reserved". For legal reasons we cannot accept copyrighted material, as all material added to Wikipedia is released under various licenses which allow others to re-use the material for any purpose. Obviously we do not have that right with copyrighted material, so such is not allowed. Better to paraphrase the material and write it in your own words. Which leads to:
  • Neutrality. The text in question included language that was non-encyclopedic in tone, but sound more like press releases or campaign blurbs: "Mayor Julio Robaina has a vision for Hialeah", "Mayor Robaina’s community based focus", and so on. It is important that all text in articles is completely neutral in tone and doesn't try to impress an opinion on the reader, either positive or negative. The way to look at this is: one should not be able to tell from the article whether the author loves or hates the subject.
  • Lastly, we need to ensure that the edits you make include information that is Verifiable through Reliable Sources that are unrelated to the topic itself. The rule of thumb for this bit is: We don't write about things we know, we write about things that others have already written about. Wikipedia is a "tertiary source" in that regards.

I hope this helps! ArakunemTalk 16:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Policy on use of user talk pages[edit]

The same policies and guidelines mentioned above apply to user talk pages like this one as well, and the same advertisement-like copyrighted material has been removed. Please review the guideline What may I not have in my user pages?, and consider the many helpful messages above. --CliffC (talk) 01:03, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]