User talk:KingsleyIdehen

Welcome!

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A friend...

You might find Stephen B Streater helpful in understanding the problem with documenting your own products on Wikipedia. Just zis Guy you know? 17:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Deletion (AfD)

I have some experience of AfD myself with FORscene. The assumption is often that someone involved in a project may overestimate its importance and find it hard to meet WP:NPOV. Although other people (including users of your software) will probably edit the article, you will probably find it easier to find independent press reports about your products. It's worth finding as many of these as you can. People can always delete them later, but the more you have, the easier it is to demonstrate notability. Ideal are press reports saying that the software is notable.

As there are so many trivial pieces of software, Wikipedia has guidelines eg WP:CORP#Criteria for products and services and is developing guidelines eg WP:SOFTWARE to keep out the unimportant pieces of software. Providing evidence that your product meets these guidelines will help the AfD. Stephen B Streater 18:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Links

Please do not add commercial links or links to your own private websites to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thanks. Just zis Guy you know? 17:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Web 3.0 article

You can discuss restoring the Web 3.0 article here. Have your say --Peter Campbell 01:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some tips to help you out!

Hi KingsleyIdehen, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:KingsleyIdehen/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talk …stalk!) 06:11, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How references work

Simple references

These require two parts;

a)

Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>

b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";

== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:KingsleyIdehen/reftest and try it out.

Named references

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier!

Hi there KingsleyIdehen! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you had to create titles for your url links manually, or were using bare urls as references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 06:11, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Emotan Preparatory School for deletion

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Epeefleche (talk) 00:21, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Categories and subcategories

FYI, there is no need to explicitly place an article in a parent category if it is already a member of a subcategory of that parent - see Wikipedia:Categorization. For example, the article on geometry is in the category Category:Geometry which is a subcategory of Category:Fields of mathematics, which is in turn a subcategory of Category:Mathematics. So there is no need to explicitly add Category:Mathematics to geometry, as it is already an implict member of this category by inheritance. Gandalf61 (talk) 10:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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