User talk:Kjhll

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July 2023

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Ajayraj890 (talk) 15:29, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

you even don't know the history of ghurid conquest of Bengal. Go and read the tabqat i nasiri. The all you books added is added as citation is basesd on this book. What is your problem ? You can add only one line about it. Kjhll (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

And what is your context? Why did you mention Minhaj in this article. Even if the event is recorded by him, there is no need to mention him here. I am reverting that edit too. Ajayraj890 (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Of course Here we have to mention Minhaj. Because the main source of the information is Minhaj's Tabakat i Nasiri. And he is the author of this historical work. Kjhll (talk) 17:20, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia page gives us knowledge. So we have to mention the original author. Secondly your title "Ghurid Conquest of Bengal " is not quite correct. Ghurid conquest of Bengal is related with Lakhnwati. Page no. 554 to 559 of Tabakat-i-Nasiri you can read. Kjhll (talk) 17:36, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

I even gave citation, added source. Kjhll (talk) 16:07, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Atleast make a userpage for yourself. And read about the formal way of a wikipedia page. I am not questioning your knowledge. But this is how a wikipedia page should be. Improve your English and read copyright before copy pasting. Thank you. Your edits will be reverted every time and if you continue and will be informed to an administrator. Ajayraj890 (talk) 16:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Rreverted edits means? I gave sources citations. Anyone can edit the page. The whole account of this conquest is based on Minhaj's. I'll inform to administrator if you remove it because my information is based on citations. Kjhll (talk) 17:17, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

And sorry for my English. Actually keyboard problem , that's why I can't type words properly. Thank you. Kjhll (talk) 17:41, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

You don't know what reversion means? Well, atleast you should know basics about wikipedia. And you are putting your information on intro which is irrelevant. I have created a seperate section called 'Further reading'. Even though the information is out of the topic, you could add it there. Ajayraj890 (talk) 01:19, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Well the information was not out of topic. Again I say "Ghurid conquest of Bengal or Lakhnawati " is recorded by Mihaj.It is not irrelevant.It is the source of information. What is history? Past. But how can we know past ? Because of Contemporary sources. Minhaj's account is contemporary source. You are history student. Hope you know about inscriptions or contemporary sources. The name of the page is not appropriate, but I didn't edit it. Because Bakhtiyar Khilji conquered only Nadia and removed his capital to Lakhnwati. At least read the book Tabaqt-i-Nasiri. Kjhll (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Irrelevant? You added the images of royal flags. May I know from which book you got this information? At least I know the image of sena dynasty's is not wrong. Kjhll (talk) 01:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Sorry type mistake. At least I know the image of Sena dynasty's royal flag is wrong. Kjhll (talk) 02:26, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

It is redirecting to a page. If you think the flag is wrong, delete from there. Ajayraj890 (talk) 11:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Even if it is relevant, add that information on 'further reading'. Intro should be consisted of highlights. Ajayraj890 (talk) 11:41, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Change the name please. "Siege of Nadiya " is better. I'll not delete anything. Flag is ok. Kjhll (talk) 12:50, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

And it is not irrelevant, how many times I have to tell you??The name of the page is actually irrelevant. It is related with the "Nadia" or "Lakhnwatai" not whole Bengal. Kjhll (talk) 06:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

No. The name of other pages which mentions this event doesn't mention the siege of Nadiya at all. It is Ghurid invasion/conquest of Bengal which led to a permenent settlement of Ghurids. Not just a siege. Ajayraj890 (talk) 11:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

sorry to say you don't know history properly. Read tabaqat i nasiri, it is clearly written Bakhtiyar Khilji invaded the city Nadia and moved his capital to Lakhnawati. The name "Bengal" you can't find it. You will find only one name "Lakhnwati" if you read it, i. e. Tabaqat-i-Nasiri Kjhll (talk) 12:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

So you are saying that Nadiya was not the part of Bengal? Firstly, study the difference between invasion and a siege. Ghurids made thier settlement in that region. That was Ghurid invasion of Bengal. Ajayraj890 (talk) 05:59, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Nadiya is simply a part of Bengal but it doesn't represent the whole region. First Study history properly and secondly don't reply if you don't know history properly. Kjhll (talk) 06:21, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

What kind of reply is that? Nadiya was the part of Bengal. Ghurids invaded Nadiya which were the part of Bengal. Ajayraj890 (talk) 06:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

"Nadia which were "? At present Nadia is simply a district of West Bengal. Kjhll (talk) 06:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Suppose a kingdom was established only in just Delhi in the past. So Delhi represents whole India? Kjhll (talk) 06:24, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

According to you, Mughal empire was an empire in Delhi, but not on India? Ajayraj890 (talk) 06:26, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

In your opinion Nadia represents whole Bengal? But sorry to say in the main source or Persian text Tabaqat-i-Nasiri only Nadia and Lakhnawati are mentioned. I just mentioned what is written in the original source and also a part of a country doesn't represent the whole region. Kjhll (talk) 06:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

And you are an expert in history aren't you? It is funny that you said Nadiya is now the part of west bengal. This page is about history, bot geography. And since Nadiya was the part of Bengal at that time, and Ghurids occupied that region, it is not just a siege. It is an invasion/conquest. I prefer you to learn the difference between an invasion and siege. Ajayraj890 (talk) 06:51, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Don't reply please, just stop it. I don't want to argue. Go through the original Persian source. First learn the differences between a district and a state. It is just funny if someone wants to say a city represents the whole region. Kjhll (talk) 07:09, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Doesn't make any sense. Anyway. The title of page remains the same. Ajayraj890 (talk) 07:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Why are you replying? I said don't reply please. Kjhll (talk) 07:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

You can easily ignore it. Ajayraj890 (talk) 08:08, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please use accurate edit summaries that describe your changes. You put "added source with two citations" for your edit in List of rulers of Bengal when what you actually did was replace one source with another source and you also changed the text to read "Lakhnawati" instead of "Western and part of Northern Bengal". Can you explain why you made this change? Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Because the western and northern part were located during Bakhtiyar Khalji and also Tabaqat i Nasiri is the contemporary source which clearly mentioned Lakhnwati was conquered by Bakhtiyar Khilji, not western and northern Bengal. The information was wrong so I changed it and I gave citation also. Kjhll (talk) 07:26, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The source used here is totally inappropriate and gave false information Kjhll (talk) 07:28, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry type mistake, I wanted to say Western and northern part of Bengal were not conquered by Bakhtiyar Khilji. He conquered Lakhnwati, I have enough sources to prove it. Here wrong is provided, I can't change it? Tell me please. Kjhll (talk) 07:38, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Again type mistake. I wanted to say, I wanted to give sources as wiki citations which mention Lakhnwati not "Western and part of Northern Bengal ". The wiki page citation gave wrong information. Can I do it? Kjhll (talk) 07:54, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Please post your proposed change to the article talk page with your sources so people can discuss it. Based on what I have read in multiple sources, the current text appears to be accurate. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 10:53, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

You are misreading the source that you are citing. That is only an early campaign, it does not describe the full extent of territories conquered. Please stop making these disruptive edits. One of the sources you are citing even says this:

Bakhtiyar Khalji's territories extended from the modern town of Purnia via Devkot (in Dinajpur) to the town of Rangpur in the north, to the river Padma in the south, to the rivers Tista and Karatoa in the east and to the previously captured territory of Bihar in the west.

Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:31, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

I understood Wikipedia give wrong information. It is not trustworthy. Why did you remove my three sources? The 13 th century Tabakat I Nasiri is the only source of the history of Bakhtiyar Khalji, why did you remove it? All three sources clearly said Bakhtiyar Khalji conquered Lakhanwati not "Western and northern part of Bengal " I gave enough sources to prove the fact.You quoted lines from the source. But you didn't see it mentioned clearly Bakhtiyar Khilji conquered Lakhnwati. "Bakhtiyar Khalji stayed in Nadia for a short period and then marched upon Gaur (Lakhnauti). He conquered it without any resistance in 601 AH /1205 AD and made it the capital of his government ". Later the source talked about his territory, what is the problem??? Very disgusting, No one can remove the wrong information from Wikipedia because of a citation? Even the sentence is not grammatically correct. I can give 10 sources or citations But you will remove all my citations and edit it . Don't worry I will not edit the page. Ok. Kjhll (talk) 01:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

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