User talk:Lucio Garcia

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All right[edit]

Hello Lucio


Unlike McCauley wrote in the text, Segura played the 1949 US Pro Claycourt and was beaten 108 64 62 by Kovacs in the semis (Kovacs b Van Horn in the final). McCauley wrote that the Big4, that is the 4 touring pros (Kramer, Riggs, Segura and Pails), were absent at the event. Carlo Colussi (talk) 06:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Lucio, the 1961 Winter Grand Prix results are supposedly Trabert 17-0, Davies 13-4, Nielsen 3-14 and Haillet 2-15 but when I count myself I find Trabert 16-0 + 1 tie with Davies, Davies 11-5 (+ 1 tie), Nielsen and Robert Haillet both 3-14 (in McCauley's book are missing the "French" Africa matches in April) Carlo Colussi (talk) 09:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Carlo, for your data and, specially, your passion. Greetings. --Lucio Garcia (talk) 12:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

  • Hi Lucio,

Here are the 1954 Australian Pro results (from Andrew Tas) which are slightly different from McCauley's : Pails beat Gonzales for 3rd place instead of 1st round. There were also two matches outside the chps (Sedgman-Gonzales on 1st day and the 2nd match between McGregor and Bonner on the 3rd day)

November 25-27 1954 Australian Professional Invitational Tennis Championships Subiaco Oval Perth

1st Day 1R P Segura (ECU) d. M Bonner 63 64 1R D Pails d. K McGregor 119 62

Also on Day 1 MS F Sedgman d. R Gonzales (USA) 75 86 (Exhibition singles)

MD Gonzales/ Segura d. Pails/ Bonner 64 86

2nd Day SF Segura d. Gonzales 36 64 64 SF Sedgman d. Pails 63 63

Also on Day 2 5th Place McGregor d. Bonner 64 62

MD Sedgman/ McGregor d. Pails/ Bonner 86 86

3rd Day Final Sedgman d. Segura 57 63 64

3rd Place Match Pails d. Gonzales 63 63

Also on Day 3 MS McGregor d. Bonner 36 63 64

MD Sedgman/ McGregor d. Gonzales/ Segura 63 86

Carlo —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Gonzales 1954-1955[edit]

Hello Lucio,

I haven't thought about this period for a while (these days I'm on the 1890s) but about one year ago I've written in the French & English sites that (I don't find my English version) so I copy-paste the French one that I translate below (very easy) where I selected the 4 greatest events of each year (in a sporting view) for me at that moment with the winners :

"version française"

1954 : 1) l'US Pro (Cleveland) Gonzales, 2) l'Australian Pro Sedgman, 3) la tournée pro Gonzales-Segura-Sedgman-Budge (et Earn) Gonzales, 4) la tournée pro australienne Gonzales-Sedgman-Segura-McGregor Gonzales ou l'US Pro Hardcourt (Los Angeles) Gonzales ou la tournée pro en Extrême Orient Segura-Gonzales-Sedgman-Kramer probablement Segura

1955 : 1) l'US Pro (Cleveland) Gonzales, 2) la tournée pro australienne Gonzales-Sedgman-Segura-Ayre le vainqueur est inconnu, 3) l'US Pro Hardcourt (Los Angeles) Gonzales , 4) peut-être Scarborough Pro Gonzales (ou même certains matches professionnels opposant Gonzales-Sedgman-Segura-McGregor à Rome en Juin) vainqueur inconnu

"English version"

1954 : 1) US Pro (Cleveland) "Gonzales", 2) Australian Pro "Sedgman", 3) the North American pro tour with Gonzales-Segura-Sedgman-Budge (and Earn) "Gonzales", 4) the Australian pro tour with Gonzales-Sedgman-Segura-McGregor, winner Gonzales or the US Pro Hardcourt (Los Angeles) "Gonzales" or the Far East pro tour with Segura-Gonzales-Sedgman-Kramer, likely winner Segura.

1955 : 1) US Pro (Cleveland) Gonzales, 2) Australian Pro tour with Gonzales-Sedgman-Segura-Ayre (the latter replacing McGregor) the winner being unknown, 3) the US Pro Hardcourt (Los Angeles) "Gonzales" , 4) perhaps Scarborough Pro "Gonzales" (or even some pro matches in Rome in June opposing Gonzales, Sedgman, Segura, McGregor, winner unknown).

So I don't grant Gonzales with all the "titles" but he has won most of them. In 1954 he lost the Australian Pro Chps (I think I have already given you the whole results) and in 1955 except some pro tours results unknown he won the two big tournaments (US Pro and US Pro hardcourt).

Sorry a) for not having answered before but those days (weeks, months) I have no time for tennis, b) for not giving a more precise answer but I haven't deeply scrutinized those years (as many others). Best wishes Carlo Colussi (talk) 08:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your last message (about TT). "I" need the others too. In particular CyBorg and I have some "tough" arguments about Nadal's and Borg's levels on clay but I recognize he gave me a good retort about my judgment of the 1981 Roland Garros final : I said that Borg (and Lendl) couldn't attack with their crosscourt backhands (in the advantage diagonal) whereas Nadal now can do it and I concluded that Nadal was therefore slightly superior to Borg on that surface. CyBorg counterattacked me by saying that equipment explains that difference and that Nadal with a wood racket would also have been unable to attack with his backhand as he does nowadays. CyBorg explained that in particular modern rackets enable players to find angles impossible to reach in the old days. Though I "vehemently" answered him I think he is right. Now I am not sure at all that the best Nadal is better than the best Borg on clay (in relative terms that is if both players had been of the same generation (Borg born 30 years later or Nadal born 30 years before)). Carlo Colussi (talk) 12:35, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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Ilie Nastase and the atp[edit]

That article you have changed a couple times, ATP World Tour records, is from 1972 onwards. You keep adding titles that were pre ATP as the article says. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok ;)